The weirdest things you've ever seen with astrology?

Hi folks.

Just curious - what are some of the weirdest things you've ever
seen with astrology?

What was the most startling coincidence you've ever seen -
what really floored you?

Feel free to give as many different examples as you like.

Apollia...

Hmm... interesting.

The chart of Kenji Toyooka. Here's a copy-and-pasteable
Astrolog 5.40 command line:

-qa August 10 1976 1:42 EDT 75:42W 45:25N
(Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada).

The first thing I notice is the moon in the distance, matching the
position of the moon in the chart.

Then there's some kind of weird abstract keychain thing, with various
different things on the ends of the keys.

The ends of the keys each seem to be pointing at the majority of the
astrological planets in the chart, which mostly line the bottom half
of the chart, except for the moon and Jupiter.

And hands seem to be a predominant theme - hands attached to almost
every key. Maybe that goes with Gemini rising (since Gemini is
associated with hands).

Then there's an H-like shape with a line roughly bisecting it, at the
end of the key pointing to Uranus, and it rather resembles the glyph
for Uranus.

Then that head with an eye ("I") in the forehead is located right
around where his sun in Leo (ego), Venus and Mercury are (with
Mars fairly close too) - all of his inner/personal astrological
planets (except for his moon, which opposes his sun).

Oh, and the phase of the moon in the illustration matches the
phase of the moon in his chart - since he was born with roughly
a full moon.

I looked up "keys" in "The Rulership Book" by Rex E. Bills.

My feeling was keys could be associated with Saturn - I guess because
the concept of something being locked and sealed rather reminds me
of Saturn.

But, the book gives Mercury and Uranus as being associated with keys.
(But, unfortunately, like every other entry in the book, there's no
source or stated rationale for these associations).

I guess that might fit in with the Gemini again, like the hands. Plus,
it's weird and abstract enough to qualify as Uranian. (Though it looks
to me like he doesn't have any really incredibly exact Uranus
aspects).

Well... that's all I notice that seems to match the chart. Is there
more? Pretty nifty... :-)

I never said anything before, but, I've found your "horoscopic
expressionism" stuff very interesting, for many years now.

How did you first notice that "horoscopic expressionism" seems
to work so well? :-)

Pedantus...

My 11 yr old stepson was convinced he had his first "real piece of art."
Sneeze:

As they say, the soul leaves the body when you sneeze...:)

Apollia...

Cute... :-)

Yes, I guess I can see how those planets map to the drawing.

There's the Jupiter portion of the drawing resembling the )_ shape of
the glyph; the notorious Mars "pointy thing"; the Saturn protuberance
sort of resembling the Saturn glyph; some Venusian concavities; an
especially round spot which goes with the moon; and something that
looks exactly like the sun's glyph, located not _too_ far from the
position of the sun in the chart.

And I guess the general directions of, and shapes formed by, the
aspect lines sort of match the shape of the drawing.

I said if this drawing really is an expression of you birth chart,
then *while* your were drawing it your were obsessing about a desire...a
larger bicycle what it looks like.
"Wow, geesh...how da'heck'd ya do that?".....:)

Apollia...

Interesting. Admittedly, sometimes I can't quite follow your
reasoning. I do, however, think it's my fault - that I just can't
keep up. :-)

Then, weeks later, I had finally decided on the best way to get one
shot at an expressive experiment. Can't be but one first time, so I
didn't just try anything. I decided to ask my 8yr old daughter to draw
for me, "a map of you personal island kingdom.":

Apollia...

Very neat... :-) I assume she had probably never seen her own
astrological chart in the past?

That xmas I gave my nephew a book on how to draw cartoon characters,
my brother worked with him on it for awhile decided to make me look like
the doomed Wylie Coyote because he is (was) a very severe critic of my
disappointing interests and a hyper-rational skeptic:

Apollia...

Very impressive drawing, looks just like the "real" Wylie. And, yes,
I can definitely see those sun and moon glyph-shaped things in there.
:-)

So... he _was_ a severe critic, eh? Did he finally change his mind?
:-)

If you notice, both my brother and this fella kenji project Jupiter
near the Asc. as a computer ( a box-shaped volume, lots of content--you
get the idea).

Apollia...

Aha! I did think of that, actually, but, I hesitated to mention it...
because I thought, "nah, computers are high-tech gizmos that would go
with Uranus".

But associating them with Jupiter definitely makes sense in a lot of
ways. They're wonderful tools for expanding your horizons, learning
new things, coming into contact with "foreign" cultures and ideas,
etc., etc. Especially if they're connected to the internet.

Gestalt and emergence:

Apollia...

Fortunately the title of that picture helped me figure out what it
was... :-)

I'm sometimes a bit slow at discerning patterns in, particularly,
confusing visual things. I think I'm more of a verbal type of person.
(Though I also have found I have more talent than I thought I did with
music).

Once you let go of the fear of seeing Madonnas on every slice of
burnt toast, you begin to realize that a drawing is a drawing, whether

Apollia...

:-)

intended as a representation of a birth chart or a free associating
abstract, the idea of self portrait and Self expression are never from
from the act. Astrology is an unconsciously construed Self portrait of
the Human being...in the image of "God" of course...:)

Apollia...

Fascinating... :-) I wonder why this is so... why would humans
develop in such a way as to have some kind of drive to metaphorically
express what's in their astrological chart... not only in visual art,
but also in other ways.

And how do they do it when likely, in many cases, they've never even
seen their own natal chart?

I wonder if an artistic chimpanzee might also produce works that
seem to correspond in some ways with their astrological chart? I'm
being serious here... :-) I would really like to know.

In your opinion, is astrology/horoscopic expressionism connected
in some way to God? How do you define God?

(Of course, anyone else who is interested in attempting to answer
these questions is welcome to jump in too... :-) )