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Sat, 22 Jul 2006 20:52:06 GMT alt.genealogy
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Roland...


singhals...
Ummm ... playing Devil's Advocate here ...

On what basis do you assert that he was IN Ohio when he bought the land
in 1821? And on what basis do you assert he lived in Ohio from 1821

Roland...
Government document for his purchased land dated April 9, 1822 states,
"Samuel Havens of Warren County". So we know he lived there at that time.
When "exactly" he came to Ohio is unknown.

And on what basis do you assert he lived in Ohio from 1821

onward? [Reason: I have several deeds in my family where someone

Roland...
1830-40-50 Census. Probate Records, guardianship records, tax, etc...

[Reason: I have several deeds in my family where someone

bought land in Illinois in 1812 or 1815 or 17, and had never set foot in
the place; others lived there in 1820 but were gone by 1840 and still
owned the land they bought in 1818. I agree: your scenario is more
likely than not to be true; but you need to open your mind a smidge.]

Roland...
Why would you think I have not an open mind? This is not a scenario but
fact.


And, why is unlikely that a married daughter's husband might prefer to
stay near his own parents or inheritance over moving somewhere unknown
with his in-laws? I mean -- ask yourself: would YOU move into your
mother-in-law's household? (g)

Roland...
They were part of New Jersey migrations that came with entire family's(even
extended) and religious congregations that settled in the Miami Valley.


Roland...
BTW, my original question was only asking if Ache was short for Rachel and
somehow it progressed into researching Samuel. Not that I mind because we
still do not know his father and any help is appreciated (g)

Huntersglenn...
Well, for me, the reasons I was asking more about Samuel was to see if I
could stumble across something that you might have missed with regard to
marriages in his family - or even with his parents/wife, in the off
chance that Ache or Rachel was a family name. Sometimes the smallest
clue can be found that can open up a lot more doors, and today, there's
a lot more out there research-wise (either transcripts of actual records
or people posting their own research) than there were three years ago.
Not trying to co-opt your research or such, but just trying to have
every bit of available information to try to find those daughters and
granddaughters.
I have a grand-daughter listed in a will from 1838 as Ache. I am
wondering if Ache may be short for Rachel. Anyone ever seen it before?
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