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Prince Charles' armed forces commisions
8 May 2006 22:36:16 -0700
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Bud...
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Are the commisions the PoW holds in the armed forces purely honorary?
Other members of the Royal Family hold colonelcies in various
regiments. I take it that these are honorary and if any royal tried to
exercise his/her command no one would obey.
Breton...
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The following is from the British Monarchy web site:
"He [Pow] currently holds the rank of Vice-Admiral in the Royal Navy,
Lieutenant-General in the Army and Air Marshal in the Royal Air Force."
These don't sound honorific to me.
David Martel...
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I do not see your point. These do sound honorific to me. Do you truly
Breton...
Jim Hawkins...
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If they aren't honorific does he collect the appropriate three salaries ?
susuhanan...
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He does not. Neither do the Dukes of Edinburgh and Kent.
Members of the Royal Family are supernumerary and do not draw military
pay.
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Jim Hawkins
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My point was that the original poster was wondering about honorary
military titles held by the PoW. I quoted the Royal web site which, as
I said, does not indicate that the Prince's military ranks are
honorary.
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believe that Charles through his schooling, training, experience, et c. is
competent to command military forces. He does have some time in as a naval
Breton...
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Yes. He has been in command, he was commander of HMS Bronington as I
recall.
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officer but a general?, an air marshall? I presume these are honorary ranks.
Breton...
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As I said, the Royal web site does not say they are honorary. Members
of the RF hold honorary titles of Colonel in Chief of lots of British
and Commonwealth regiments, as presumably does the PoW. For instance,
service appointments held by the Princess Royal. You will note that
some are designated as honorary, but not all. I therefore conclude that
susuhanan...
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Not all honorary military appointments are labelled "honorary".
In Commonwealth countries, a Colonel-in-Chief or Colonel of a regular
army regiment is never termed "honorary", although in practice he is.
On the other hand, appointments to non-regular military units in the
Territorial Army, militia, auxiliary, cadet or reserve forces are
usually labelled "Honorary Colonel", "Honorary Lieutenant-Colonel",
"Honorary Air Commodore", etc.
Please note that the above has nothing to do with whether or not the
person appointed to the position is a member of the Royal Family. Any
person holding these appointment are termed the same.
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susuhanan...
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Indeed so. The late Dukes of Gloucester, Kent and Windsor, all took up
active service appointments during the last war. The last two
voluntarily dropped down in rank to do so - Field Marshal to
Major-General in the case of Windsor and Air Vice-Marshal to Air
Commodore in the case of Kent.
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some are "real".
I therefore deduce that since the Royal web site notes where a military
title is honorary, the Princes ranks are not so designated, and
therefore as far as I can tell his British ranks appear to be real,
i.e. non honorary.
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Dave M.
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