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Peerage extinction question
3 Nov 2006 13:16:17 -0800
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bxzi...
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Has there ever been a peerage that, despite being capable of inherited
either by a male or female, became extinct?
Al...
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Yes, various peerages by writ come to mind and no doubt some Scottish
titles - with their more generous remainders - must have died with the
first holder.
marquess...
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Yes I think that you will find that if you look at the Dukedom of
Hamilton there were a couple of titles that became extinct that could
go through the female line. The Earldom of Ruglen 25th April 1697, I
Don Aitken...
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Indeed. It passed to the grantee's elder daughter, then to her only
child, later 4th Duke of Queensberry, who dsp 1810, as did the younger
daughter (Countess of Cassilis) in 1763.
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am sure that there are a couple more.
Don Aitken...
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Some Scottish peerages have also become dormant because of uncertainty
as to what the rule of succession actually was. This happened to the
Earldom of Glencairn in 1796; in that case rival claims by the heir
male and the heir of line were both formally made and both rejected by
the CoP, although it seems that one of them must have been entitled.
Al...
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Cmtte *for* privilages isn't it? Isn't the earldom of arlington in the
same boat, the claim is difficult to prove due to the open remainder.
However I sometimes suspect the cfp decisions owe more to liking the
claimant or the liquid nature of their lunch than strict law as some
decision have been beyond odd
marquess...
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With the Arlington case, I don't think it was due to the uncertainty of
the remainder, as that is the same as the Barony, it is the precedence
of treating an earldom in the same manner as a barony. There is no
reason why the current Baroness should not be the countess of Arlington
too, and I hope that she is strongly pressing her claim to it. The
first earl was succeeded by his daughter in all honours. Any
complication in the remainder is due to the fact that it didn' t state
without division, as in the case of Lucas of Dingwell peerage, then it
could not have been "abeyant", (something that should only apply to
baronies by writ of summons), the earldom of Cromarties, a modern copy,
will one day be heading for trouble because of the way the patent has
been drawn up. Simply stating in reaminder to heirs general with out
division, would be the best way to make like simple!
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Brooke
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