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German royal descendants grandchildren & Prinz title
13 Oct 2006 11:46:15 -0700
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decraonknights...
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In German roalty, would all great grandchildren of the soverign be
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princes or princesses and also does that pass through the female line?
Lisa Davidson...
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When titles were legal in Germany, one's rank was determined by one's
father. There may have been instances where there was such an
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inheritance through the female line, but I am unaware of it. So far as I
know, a title from Imperial Germany would continue to pass down the male
line.
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marquess...
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Most Germanic titles, followed the precepts of Salic Law, males only,
there may be one or two instances, where a female has been raised up,
but the title then descends to males infinitum! Thus in answer to the
original question, even the great great great great great great great,
and I could go on, descendents in the male line will bear a title. It
did become fashionable in the German Empire, to make the head of a
family a Prinz, but leave the others as Counts, Bismarck, Eulenburg,
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Prinz, read "Prince" as translation of "F=FCrst". Bavaria did
not follow the Prussian way, even the cadets were F=FCrst; Austria,
Hungary acted as Bavaria. That includes the mediatized families (as
long as they were Bavarian citizens).
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Hatzfeldt come to mind, but in Austria, this was not the case as far as
I am aware, unless you take the example of Hohenburg, Dukes, and the
others princes, but then again they were morganitic hapsburgs!
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What about Dietrichstein von Nicolsburg/Mensdorff-Pouilly-Dietrichstein?
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There was a Prinz Karl von Dietrichstein, a friend of the emporer
Josef, who was so created a Furst, but I think that the Princely line
has long been extinct.
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long indeed, if cowboys think Ameican culture is old!
(The D are not very German, if you ignore the Austrian part, think
Russian, French).
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Alexander, cre. an Austrian prince with the style of "Serene Highness"
dipl. dated Vienna, 20 March 1869. Title of Count/Countess
Mensdorff-Pouilly-Dietrichstein for descendants other than the head of
the house, dipl. dated Vienna, 6th April 1887.
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A cowboy question. C, may be able to .., but has not yet learned to
walk!
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