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Queen Elizabeth II of Greater Britannia & Northern Parts of Eire



22 Apr 2006 17:00:17 -0700 alt.talk.royalty
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coffeecup...
Now taking into account both parts of Ireland, we see the Northern Part
ruled
by Her Majestic Prevalence is full of manevolence. Is it something
then to
celebrate, after her crowning years since 1952, that she has managed to
impart
such a feeling of goodwill amongst all her subjects - many of whom find

themselves at her pleasure, stinking in a rotton cell.

mjcar...
The cuckoos get earlier every Spring - must be global warming.

I wonder what "manevolence" is? Possibly something to do with "rotton"?

Peter Tilman...
Presumably there's some connection with remaining (as I'm guessing the
"mane-" bit is from "maneo"), so perhaps "wanting to remain" (in their
rotton cells, one assumes).

=?iso-8859-1?B?SmFuIEL2aG1l?=...
Ingenious, but shouldn't it have been "manuvolence" to allow an
interpretation involving hands?

OTOH, mustn't "rotton" be a telescoping of "rotting" and "cotton".
intending to combine the senses? Thus, a "rotton cell" should refer to
a particular kind of padded cell, where the padding consists of rotting
cotton.

Arguably the softest padding possible, all for the benefit of the
mental patient thus confined.

Jan B=F6hme


cavello...
I'm not sure what on earth you're on about, but your knowledge of
geography and history is certainly suspect. The Queen is not the head
of State of the "Northern part of Eire", but rather of Northern
Ireland. Eire is the name of the country consisting of the part of the
island of Ireland not taken up by Northern Ireland.

frederick...
Or possibly vice versa! {g}

And as every schoolboy knows, the northernmost part of the island of
Ireland is in part of the Republic. Accidents of history keep us on
our toes...

cavello...
They sure do. Perhaps "Northern Ireland" should be called "North-East
Ireland". Either way, the Queen isn't the head of state of any part of

frederick...
Well, the name made a lot more sense when it was devised, since it
would've existed in parallel with "Southern Ireland". Renaming it now
would be a thought, but I suspect that any alternative would be (1)
highly contentious politically, and (2) likely not to be as snappy a
name or provide such a handy initialism.

Eire, north or otherwise.

frederick...
"Greater Britannia" doesn't appear in any version of her titles that
I'm aware of, either!


Mike Stone...
Not that any of it necessarily matters. Her
predecessors were called "King/Queen of France"
until 1802, though they hadn't ruled any part of
France since 1453.

Stan Brown...
Is that a typo? I thought Mary I (r. 1553-1558) lost Calais and
remarked that the word "Calais" would be found written on her heart
when she died.

Mike Stone...
But was Calais regarded as part of France?

Iirc, at one time it actually sent an MP to
Westminster. IOW, although it had been conquered
_from_ France, it seems to have been regarded as
English territory, ruled by Mary I and her
predecessors in her capacity as Queen of
_England_, not as supposed "Queen of France". All
the territories ruled under the "French" hat went
by 1453 iirc.


FTM, the 19/20C Emperors of Austria were all
called "King of Jerusalem", though afaik no
Habsburg had _ever_ ruled there.

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