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Savoy: text of the royal patents of 1780, 1782?



Fri, 08 Dec 2006 23:11:44 -0600 alt.talk.royalty
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François R. Velde...
I feel at some disadvantage for not having seen the actual texts. Are they
available on the Web somewhere, or failing that does someone have a print
reference?

kurrild...
I have wanted to ask the same--without something more specific like
that, it is a bit hard to interpret the consequences.

I still have not seen the texts, and I looked in vain in several books
I have, including "Le Petit Gotha" (1993), which in some cases have
interesting snippets of interesting information regarding succession
rules (although some presentations also are somewhat "selective").
This book only states that "Par tradition, pour =EAtre dynaste, un
marriage doit =EAtre autoris=E9 par le chef de maison" (p. 456), and it
does not quite explain how that is consistent with the same book giving
Vittorio Emmanuele as Chief _and_ the statement "le roi Umberto n'avait
pas donn=E9 son autorisation =E0 ce mariage," although it is claimed
without references that the King in 1973 tacitly recognized his
daughter-in-law as Princess of Napoli (p. 458). What the latter is
based in is, as indicated unknown to me, but the book contains some
other pieces which I found interesting, not least some quotations from
a Decree by Vittorio Emmanuele dated 30 January 1984. In this he
recognizes the title supposedly given informally by the King to
Emmanuele Philiberto: "Notre fils a=EEn=E9 le prince royal h=E9ritier
Emanuele Filiberto recoit le titre de prince de Pi=E9mont suivi _du
titre de prince de Venise, conc=E9d=E9 par notre auguste p=E8re_." So, at
least in the eyes of Vittorio Emmanuele it was certainly the case that
the King had accorded this title (rather than the usual of Prince of
Piemonte) to his grand-child. Supposedly the same decree also states
that "la princesse royale Marina, notre =E9pouse, porte le titre de
duchesse de Savoie, suivi du titre de princesse de Naples". The latter
perhaps seems interesting because it also might seem a little
superfluous.

Best wishes,

Peter Kurrild-Klitgaard
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