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Irish Jacobite Peerages in 1689
24 Jan 2006 18:27:56 -0800
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Mike McIntosh...
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In 1689 James II convened a Parliament in Dublin. An account that I am
reading mentions that of approximately 100 Irish Peers only fourteen
showed up and that seventeen were 'hastily created'.
What happened to these titles? Were any recognized by William and
Mary? Are they considered the beginning of the Jacobite peerage? Are
any claimed or used in any manner today? Does anyone have a list?
David Boothroyd...
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The Jacobite Peerage is listed in Appendix F to Volume I of the
Complete Peerage (second edition). Several of the peerages were by that
time (1910) incorporated in other titles, but most of them were either
for life or already extinct by heirs male.
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Did anyone or any family manage to pick up one of these and then go on
to collect titles in 1715 and the '45?
Don Aitken...
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I don't have a list, but one of them was Richard Talbot, of the
Talbots of Carton, who was promoted from Earl (cr. 1685) to Duke of
Tyrconnell. He was a Catholic, had played a leading part in attempts
to obtain the conversion or Princess Anne, and had been James's Lord
Lieutenant in Ireland. His wife was the sister of Sarah, Duchess of
Marlborough, for whose confinement under house arrest in London
Tyrconnell was made responsible in 1688 (she escaped despite his
rather half-hearted efforts).
The Williamite attitude to James's Irish creations was the same as to
his English ones; those made after his deemed abdication in December
1688 were not recognised. Tyrconnell was attainted for fighting on the
wrong side at the Boyne, and the heirs to his earldom, which had a
special remainder to his brother Garret Talbot and his heirs male,
were excluded from the Irish HoL, although they continued to use the
title until their extinction in 1752.
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