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Where are the Stuarts now?
15 Jun 2006 14:10:51 -0700
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dwickford...
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Last year I saw a TV programme which traced the Plantagenets to the
present day, and the head of the family was found in a bungalow in the
Australian outback. Where are the present day Stuarts?
mjcar...
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The "Man in the outback" - the Earl of Loudon - is a descendant of the
Plantagenets, but through various female lines; he is not himself a
Plantagenet. Similarly, the male line of Stuart heirs continued after
Don Aitken...
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In fact the line goes through six female successions, although the
fact is obscured by numerous name changes:
Plantagenet-->Pole (1541)-->Hastings (1576)-->
Rawdon (1808)-->Clifton (1874)-->Huddleston (1960)-->Lord (2002)
Of course, all of those with a plausible interest, however remote, in
the British throne, have Plantagenet descents, as do most of the older
British aristocracy, and several thousand Americans.
There are surviving male-line decendants of the Hastings (most
obviously the Earls of Huntingdon), who can claim Plantagenet ancestry
through only two females. I don't think there are any with only one.
There are also families (such as that of the Dukes of Beaufort) who
can produce a purely male-line Plantagenet pedigree if you are
prepared to overlook a couple of illegitimacies.
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the deposition of James II/VII in 1688 until 1807, and they are now
represented by a female line descendant, Francis, Head of the Bavarian
Royal Family. He lives in Bavaria.
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atsarisborn...
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The leading male-line Plantagenet is the Duke of Beaufort.
There are lots of male line Stuarts all over the place -- none of them
descendants in the legitimate male line from the kings of that dynasty
of course.
I think the Duke of Grafton is the senior line from the English
Stuarts. Or are they extinct? Is there still a Duke of Cleveland? I
know there's a St. Albans, but he's not senior. They're all descended
in the male line from Charles II.
Then there's the Duke of Liria and Berwick, but his line is from James
II.
You can't be "head of a family" if none of your ancestors even belonged
to that family since the 15th century.
Jean Coeur de Lapin
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