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Norwegian news: Løvenskiold Drake birth
Sat, 24 Jun 2006 00:52:43 +0200
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Dag T. Hoelseth...
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Edle Løvenskiold and Fredrik Drake became parents to a girl, Hedvig Sophie,
at Akershus Universitetssykehus, Lørenskog, on 16 June 2006.
Source: Birth announcement in Aftenposten 23 June 2006, Kultur (Culture)
section, p. 14.
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Edle Løvenskiold and Fredrik Drake were married at Gjerpen Church, Skien, on
5 March 2005. Edle, b. 21 August 1978, is the younger daughter of Herman
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Leopoldus Løvenskiold (b. 1942) and Borghild H. Løvenskiold (b. 1946) of the
Skien (Telemark) branch.
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Dag T. Hoelseth...
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The L belong to the Danish nobility! But not the new born child. In
Denmark nobilitas uteri is unknown! (See also DAA, also called the Red
Book, current issue, 266)
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I know perfectly well that the Norwegian Løvenskiolds are listed in the DAA.
If you don't like genealogical news from the (former) noble families in
Norway, then please ignore them.
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You are quite right you decide.
Such you might ignore this or that family belonging to the nobility.
Somebody posted about Kidman, perhaps she has Norwegian ancestors. They
are certrainly wellcome here.
Dag T. Hoelseth...
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I have not posted any news concerning Nicole Kidman. She might be on
topic here if someone posted a message showing nobles among her
ancestors, but so far no-one has (a challenge for William A.
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Why must one wait for nobles? Would not any one do? Like Australian
Aborigines?
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Reitwiesner?!).
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One has Norwegian proletarian ancestors nothing wrong to read here
about them.
What you still not habe realized is that the baby in question is not a
baby L but a baby Drake.
Dag T. Hoelseth...
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On the contrary, as all my messages demonstrate. There is nothing in my
messages which says that the child is a "baby L". When will you realize
this?
[=2E..]
Dag T. Hoelseth
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It is quite right the L family figures in baby D list of ancestors,
theu contributed the womb for the baby.
May one see as much of ancestors of baby D as possible, not only on the
paternal side, but also on the side of the working uterus.
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Of course you know, perfectly. The same concerning the new born child.
And that this child does not belong to your "former) noble families in
Norway".
Dag T. Hoelseth...
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The Løvenskiolds are Norwegian. If nobility had still existed in Norway,
Edle Løvenskiold would be considered a noble woman, but not her son. Still
the news of the birth is of genealogical interest, for which reason I post
it here. If you don't like it, please ignore my postings.
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The L belong to the Danish nobility! But not the new born child. In
Denmark nobilitas uteri is unknown! (See also DAA, also called the Red
Book, current issue, 266)
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"would be considered a noble woman", only until her marriage. "but not
her son" ("noble woman") - already for the reason he is a son and not
a woman -, because the womb of a woman (marrying somebody, who does not
belonging to the nobility), does not nobilisize.
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I have already agreed that the said woman's noble status cannot be
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transferred cognatically. Still, I am going to post such genealogical news
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as they are on topic here. I am, however, going to stop replying to your
posts in this thread, as it leads to nowhere.
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You are right, not wrong!
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mjcar...
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Please do continue to post these snippets, as they are of interest.
Regards, Michael
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No news are good news, not here! A continuation is of course quite
useful
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Useful, as one sees one tries to give the impression that the mother's
womb do nobilize. That would be too wonderful. It works somehow in
Royal families as children of princesses more and more keep a right to
the throne
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Useful, as one sees one tries to give the impression that the mother's
womb do nobilize. That would be too wonderful. It works somehow in
Royal families as children of princesses more and more keep a right to
the throne
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And someone sees ghosts in the broad daylight. There is no basis for the
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In some cases (3) the uterus at least help to nobilize.
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allegation that "one tries to give the impression that the mother's womb do
nobilize". I had wanted to stop my participation in this thread, but your
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nonsense gives me no choice. I just wanted to give genealogical information
on a member of the Løvenskiold family. Do you have to destroy every thread I
and others initiate because you wish to show off your knowledge of some
basic facts concerning nobility?
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In the meantime one hopes you have learned some of these basic facts.
(a daughter of a noble family marrying somebody, who does not belong to
the nobility, is not anymore noble. Her children with this somebody
does not belong to the nobility). One would have ignored your initial
post if you just would have dealt with this family Drake. (By the way:
child's mother is n=E9e L, a fami!ly belonging to the .. nobility).
There was not anything more to say.
Dag T. Hoelseth...
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I think I have demonstrated both in this thread as well as in others that I
know the basic facts. You, on the other hand, have demonstrated what a waste
of time it is to participate in threads which you for some reason have
decieded to rip apart. Enough said.
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mjcar...
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Here's some more basic facts for you to digest: Dag did not state
anywhere in his original post that the child (or its mother for that
matter) belonged to the nobility (which no longer exists in Norway in
any case). Gordon Bennett!
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