Hey Dorothy Toto

If Grutter is more likely to help certain whites than blacks in
general, I assume you'd support the Supreme Court overthrowing it.

Speak up Toto, can't hear you.

toto...

When they make the universities dump *all* special admissions policies
than I would support no points for diversity reasons. As it stands,
the points for race and poverty might make up a *little bit* for the
points that are given for other things. The admission of alumni's

I'm...

You mean like athletic scholarships?

What about all those basketball and football players, the majority of
whom are BLACK?

children should be dumped. Since the SAT scores don't correlate

I'm...

Black alumni's chilluns too?

to success in anything but Freshman year, those should probably be
dumped as well (I can hear the testing industry screaming about that

Stan de SD...

You have a better way to determine success?

one).

hrubin...

Right now, race makes a major difference, and poverty is
the only criteria for reduced charges, with few exceptions.

There needs to be allowances for ability but lack of background,
which is rarely avoidable with the present elhi situation. The
OLD SAT scores, which attempted to test intelligence, was a good
way of identifying these, and something like that should be
reinstituted. Students with promise should be highly subsidized,
but the ones now getting in because of high school grades on junk,
and allowed to destroy the college curriculum for those who should
be going to college not given anything.

The best to decide qualifications would be long exams, set by
scholars, testing not memorization and calculation, but the
ability to use what is known. However, these exams cannot
test ability in the absence of learning the concepts, and as
the concepts are often completely avoided, a good intelligence
test is needed. Do not expect perfection; it will not be
obtained. This is definitely needed until the high schools
can test on this, which is at best far in the future; they
cannot teach this way, and NCLB might well prevent them from
doing so if they could.