Blax Beat, Throw Feces On White Kid; Just A Misdemeanor

And of course, not a hate crime.

Wrong color scheme involved.
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http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-kennedy05.html#

Rosalind Rossi, Chicago Sun-Times, April 5, 2006

At least 150 students played hooky from Kennedy High School on Tuesday
to demand extra security in their Southwest Side school, saying they’d
even welcome cops in the classroom to stem rising violence.

Jude_Alexander...

Isn't always a "Matter of degree" to the bigots.

I noticed you didn't comment on the fact that men create more violence in
the world than women. Should we start doing something about us men? AND
PRONTO? :)

You're taking statistics and using them to feed your rage, your unhappiness
about YOUR lot in life, your perceived lost of entitlement. Go out and
create a life for yourself that you'd want to live.

Toting signs reading “Does Someone Have to Die?” and “We’re Scared of

Gray Shockley...

Changing the subject, peckerhead,
is the only way you could get a
response.

Cydrome Leader...

I see, you don't get it. I'll explain so you can understand.

1) you're a dumbass who loses gas caps
2) you met a nice black fellow, and that somehow invalidates that a bunch of
other black folks are complete assholes.

Gray Shockley...

Oh, we all have our "crosses" to bear.

I'm mostly "white".

And your grandmother detested you because you're a coward, a socialist and
you're ashamed of your grandmother because she was Polish.

I guess it bothered her that she was more of a man than you.

But then, of course, just about everybody is.

Gray Shockley

Gray Shockley...

Yep, the same as any other group.

I spent five tears as a civil-rights worker and
twenty years in the Army. My bet is that is twenty-five years more experience
than your anonymous life (so to speak).

However, I'm not a total collectivist such as you appear to be; I try to
judge individuals as as that: individuals.

I'd be willing to bet for every person that returns a gas cap, there's a few
more who would steal it. Ever hear of a locking gas cap?

Gray Shockley...

Yeah, one of my friends had an old car and he was filling it up when the
owner came out, looked at the locking gas cap and asked, "What part of the
north you from, youngster?"

This same guy was getting a Mississippi driver's license and the highway
patrolman looked at his California driver's license and looked to Thom's blue
eyes and blond hair and said, "Why you got a "C" for race?"

Thom, of course, looked at him as if he were crazy and said that the "C" for
"race" on his driver's license stood for "Caucasian". "Son, around here "C"
stands for "colored".

Gray Shockley

Gray Shockley...

I said nothing about your family
or your "acquaintances",
peckerhead.

Cydrome Leader...

I'm sure your circular family tree is quite the standard.

Gray Shockley

School,” kids rallied across the street from Kennedy in the wake of a
brutal beating last week that stunned the school.

Even Jesse Ruiz, State Board of Education chairman, called the assault
“disturbing” and asked the board staff to examine the state’s spin on
a federal law meant to help students who are crime victims.

Beating prompts walkout

Four Kennedy students have been charged with misdemeanor battery for
pummeling a senior honor student and breaking his nose during a March
29 meeting of all seniors in the school auditorium. Witnesses said the
attackers threw feces at the victim. The motive was uncertain.

The week before that, a loaded gun was found in the bushes outside the
school auditorium.

“Kennedy is a good school,” Ibtesam Nasser Saleh, 19, senior class
president and a National Honor Society member, said during Tuesday’s
protest. “The only problem is, it’s on the verge of becoming a bad
school.”

{snip}

SOME BLAME TRANSFER STUDENTS

Q. Some students are blaming rising violence at Kennedy High on 190
kids who entered the school since Oct. 1. Where did these kids come
from?

A. About a fifth came from foreign countries or other states,
including Poland, Mexico, Yugoslavia, Wisconsin, Texas and Hawaii, CPS
spokesman Michael Vaughn said. Others came from Catholic or suburban
schools or other Chicago public schools, with no more than 10 students
arriving from any one school, Vaughn said. A third are special
education students, meaning they have learning, behavioral or physical
disabilities.

Q. Why did students arrive after the start of the school year?

A. Some came directly from other countries. Some apparently moved into
Kennedy’s attendance area after school started, CPS officials said.
Some also may have moved into the attendance area of an overcrowded
school but were assigned to Kennedy because it’s not overcrowded. “We
have a high mobility rate, and the Southwest Side is the most
overcrowded part of the city,” Vaughn said. At neighboring Gage Park
High, which is overcrowded, Principal Wilfredo Ortiz said three new
students showed up Tuesday, and he has received about 200 new kids
since Oct 1. He estimated not more than 10 of them were transferred to
Kennedy, which had spaces available in a bilingual Spanish program,
which many of them needed.

Q. Why were the kids who beat the Kennedy honor student and broke his
nose charged with misdemeanor battery?

A. Generally, a felony aggravated battery charge requires use of a
deadly weapon or “great bodily harm” to the victim, according to
authorities. Police decided the case was a misdemeanor and did not
refer it to the Cook County state’s attorney’s office for possible
felony charges, Chicago Police spokeswoman Monique Bond said. She said
prosecutors can upgrade the charges if that’s warranted.

Q. Was this a hate crime?

A. Although the victim was white and the alleged attackers were black,

Jude_Alexander...

Genetics and environmental both will contribute to people's character and
thus behavior. Science hasn't proven that behavior is mapped.

However, and I have nothing to back it up with any degrees or experience
with genetics, I personally believe that we're completely mapped and free
will is something people exercise within that mapped character and
environment can play a part but only as a influence on that already mapped
character. It is easier to influence children toward the good or bad than
adults although adults can change their behavior IF within their mapped
character they have the components with which to do so. Obviously, there
are some individuals who are what is called sociopath or reprobates.

What makes me believe that our character is completely mapped is that it
follows absolute reason to believe so. We can't do a thing without a plan.
We can't build something with a plan. I mean, our behavior just doesn't
come falling from the sky! lol

It's what people call HUMAN nature. Obviously that is mapped. Humans don't
act like penguins. Then there's particular characteristics within that
human nature that differs from one individuals to another. We don't choose
if we turn out to be introverted or extraverted. 100% of who we are is a
complete discovery by ourselves about ourselves. We literally learn who we
are as we go through life.

Gray Shockley...

Except we may be doing this all wrong.
We may be using the wrong major premise.

It doesn't appear that we've gotten any more civilized in the past 5,000
years or twenty thousand years or 2,000,00 years (to the last syllable of
recorded time and all that stuff).

I use it for a .sig but let's slip it up into the body of the missive:

Now my own suspicion is that the
Universe is not only queerer than
we suppose, but queerer than
we *can* suppose.
- J B S Haldane

Known as "Haldanianism" or "Oops! I missed it, too."

++ gray

whatever

Then you come to the "right and wrong" of human behavior. There's a basic
set of rules, typically falling under the "golden rule." Most people agree
that the golden rule is a good rule of respect one person from another
although never attainable all of the time. Otherwise, we're be perfect and
humans are not perfect. This is where free will is SUPPOSED to ALWAYS come
in but obviously there are some people who cannot just apply will to certain
behaviors. Addicts are such. They can choose to go to certain programs,

Jude_Alexander...

Actually, I don't agree. America happened which a great experiment
(hopefully that will win out in the end), the basic world acknowledgement of
the evil of slavery happened, women's emacipation happened. Humans grow
slowly. The human race in general has become more civilized. Of course,
we'll always have to live with the dark side of our nature within ourselves
and others, especially those who embrace the dark side and promote it with
all they have.

and if they're really motiviated, can stay on top of their addiction but
cannot change their addictive characteristics. It's a life long committment
just to stay away from their addiction so OBVIOUSLY there are some behaviors
that people WANT to change but cannot. Something more than "evil" is going
on. I believe it's a brain genetic disorder and I am so glad that
scientists are making headway in the field of genetics so that in the future
people can be helped that want to be helped.

“there doesn’t appear to be any indication that this would be a hate
crime,” Bond said.

(...)

(Posted on April 5, 2006)