Grey's Anatomy. Grey gives it up any doctor that asks.

Well George finally stood up and made his play. I was sure that he

karl...

*shrug* Believe what you wish.

would get shut down. But I guess Grey was feeling lonely and vulnerable
and really needed to feed the so-called "Beast".

JXStern...

Grey's anatomy is Grey's destiny?

Didn't George have some STD a few episodes ago?

That kind of ruined it for me. I like the show better when George had
unrequited love. When he was constantly on a quest for her. I know that

Patricia Martin Steward...

Oh, he still does.

karl...

She will kick him to the curb the next day with a "It's been fun but don't
book the reception hall" line

Big surprise Izzy and Alex hooking up since last episode. That was obvious
from the pilot. Though I suspect they are clones so I'm not sure what the
genetic ramifications will be.

Frankly, even as a soap GA is getting too soapy. The 'other man' in Derek
and Addison's relationship shows up? More than I want to know about the
elder Greys and the chief of surgery triangle.

sheesh!

I'll probably give it the rest of the season but that's about it.

Grey doesn't love him back (yet) but she did give up the booty.

karl...

Why upon learning the reason for leaving does she get angry with her
father? At best she went from believing her father left both her and her

Obveeus...

Seemed to me that she has been angry with him for 20+ years. Knowing that
he had a valid reason for leaving her mom wouldn't diminish her anger
towards him for having left her. She didn't do anything, her mother did.

rgorman...

I find it difficult to think of a scenario in which dear old dad is
totally not at fault for the lack of contact with his daughter.

rgorman...

During the first senility scene. Ellis is labouring under the
impression that her daughter is still a teenager and belittling her
pretty harshly.

mother for no reason to understanding that her father had a very good reason
for leaving at least her mother.

Obveeus...

I think she showed up on her father's doorstep with that in mind...almost
like she was ready to forgive him (or atleast let him know that she finally
understood why he left). His *I'll give you whatever you need* type
attitude spoiled her moment, though, since all she really needed was a
father and he very much hadn't given her that. I think she suddenly
realized, while standing in his doorway, that her mother's cheating didn't
excuse her father's leaving her (Merideth's) life.

not a good episode for me. Hope next week that things are restored to

karl...

I was thinking of the manner in which she was gloating over fooling her
husband. This was not an indiscretion that can been seen as a human failing

rgorman...

I recall no such gloating. No indication that she was even _trying_
to fool her husband. She was however, talking about him as if he was
a contemptible weakling who she hated and was trying to drive away.
And having seen him, it's hard to imagine how he could be seen as a
contemptible weakling, isn't it?

karl...

I didn't take much from the little I saw of him. I did take something from
her recounting which, yes, I did consider gloating about how he was a fool
for not knowing about the affair.

whereupon she the tansgressee would feel guilty for it. She showed not guilt
nor even avoidance but exultation over he adultery and her husband's
ignorance.

Granted she is suffering from Alzheimer's but until evidence to the
contrary is shown I will assume the attitude she exhibited in her recounting
is accurate. And assuming that it is I think it paints her as a thoroughly
disreputable person.

Obveeus...

I'll take that as a direct admission that the storyline of McDreamy getting
back together with his wife (as opposed to wanting to get away from her so
badly that he moved across the entire country) was not part of the original
plotline.

Rob Jensen...

Then you're taking it wrongly.

Obveeus...

So, you want to claim she was only going to be in 5 episodes, but that
McDreamy was going to go back to her?

-- Rob

Rob Jensen...

Well, short-term that's going to happen, absolutely. Long-term,
George is going to understand how screwed up McSlutty, err, McMurphy,
err, Meredith is at the present time and take into consideration how
much she'll have changed later on.

Meredith and McDreamy, however, are doomed. The more of s1 I

Obveeus...

If you mean 'in mind' as in 'wife that had cheated on him so he left her,
travelled all the way across the country to get away from her, and planned
to start a new life without her'.

Obveeus...

Getting srunk, sleeping with strangers...always a mistake. Finding out that
they are your boss...just nails it home.

Obveeus...

I agree that Meredith's actions were always creepy. She is very self
destructive.
For McDreamy, not so much creepy at the start. His 'creepy' factor only
rose when his separated wife came back and he couldn't tell her to go
away...and at the same time couldn't stop from continuing to pursue
Meredith.

Rob Jensen...

McDreamy's interest in Meredith was *very* creepy from the start
despite a chemistry that makes their whole 'ship inherently tragic --
the age difference (first off), then quickly, the job position. Those
two facts alone made the situation slightly creepy -- albeit if that
was all there was to it, an ultimately forgivable level of creepy as
they clearly would have stayed together -- it's his failure to tell
Meredith about Addison, to line the foundation of his relationship
with Meredith with betrayal, that makes McDreamy 's pursuit of her
essentially one huge, creepy lie. The whirlwind romance of those
initial nine episodes doesn't exist in a vacuum apart from the last
four episodes of that arc.

-- Rob

re-watched on DVD, the more that the fact that McDreamy wasn't even
*divorced* from Addison yet sticks out and the way *he* led Meredith
on and ultimately shattered her gets creepier and creepier and less
and less forgivable.

Ian J. Ball...

I think you're missing his point - Obveeus is implying that McDreamy's
"marriage" was an after-the-fact 'retcon' by the writers.

I suspect he's right about that...

-- Rob

their proper order.

kaydigi...

That's it for me, everything was solid until the end.