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Disney hand-drawn animation--The Return
Fri, 28 Jul 2006 03:00:28 -0500
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Ken from Chicago...
Chris Sobieniak...
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Typically would you call these "inbetweens"? Usually the key animator
would do the extremes or key drawings that would usually skip over
every so frames of a scene, and an assistant would add in an extra
drawing somewhere in the sequence and an "inbetweener" would do the
rest.
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Chris Sobieniak...
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This process elminated the need for hand-inking the outlines on cels by
copying the pencil lines directly. Too often the clean-ups themselves
of the drawings weren't always too perfect, and often lines that
shouldn't be there got transferred in the process.
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Chris Sobieniak...
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Funny I haven't heard of the Amiga doing that.
The Beauty and the Beast
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Chris Sobieniak...
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I tyipcally haven't read that book, but the best book you should try to
pick up is "The Illusion of Life" by ol' Frank & Ollie (of coruse that
book was first published in '81, and "The Art of Animation" went
through many revisions over the decades since it's first publishings in
the late 50's).
Anim8rFSK...
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And since he was using the wrong terms and spellings, I doubt he copied
anything 'straight' out of anywhere.
Chris Sobieniak...
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I just never call 'em "keyframes" myself!
videonovels...
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Strawman argument. I never used the word "keyframes".
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Chris Sobieniak...
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Typically would you call these "inbetweens"? Usually the key animator
would do the extremes or key drawings that would usually skip over
every so frames of a scene, and an assistant would add in an extra
drawing somewhere in the sequence and an "inbetweener" would do the
rest.
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Chris Sobieniak...
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This process elminated the need for hand-inking the outlines on cels by
copying the pencil lines directly. Too often the clean-ups themselves
of the drawings weren't always too perfect, and often lines that
shouldn't be there got transferred in the process.
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Chris Sobieniak...
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Funny I haven't heard of the Amiga doing that.
The Beauty and the Beast
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Chris Sobieniak...
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This process would also be used for a number of other films of this
period either at Disney or elsewhere.
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Guess Disney's deciding the pen's mightier than the cpu.
Brian Griffin...
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Does this mean we're abandoning computers and other modern
technology and returning to earlier ways of doing things?
Chris Sobieniak...
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There's been a lot of talk about this lately over at Cartoon Brew as
several articles had been written about the subject lately.
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Troy.Heagy...
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Good. When I read that Disney had closed-down its ~60 year tradition
of hand-drawn feature-length movies, I knew it was a terrible, terrible
mistake. I love the hand-drawn movies. They have a "soul" that is
missing from later adult-oriented CGI stuff.
moviePig...
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One swallow does not a summer make. Also, Disney probably never lost
its *appreciation* for the art... hence its sumptuous contractual
accomodation of Miyazaki (HOWL'S MOVING CASTLE)...
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Ken from Chicago...
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Don't confuse the medium with the message.
The same tired romantic leads, villian and comedy relief sidekicks does NOT
become April fresh merely because it's hand drawn. Three words:
Troy.Heagy...
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You call it "tired," but I liked that Disney "broadway musical" in
cartoon format. I have never tired of that style.
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DISNEY ANIMATED 80's.
Don't make me name names.
Derek Janssen...
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Okay, I'll name some:
John Musker & Ron Clements, co-directors of "Great Mouse Detective"
(1986); directors of "Little Mermaid" (1989)
...Now back and working at their old Disney Feature Animation jobs, as
of March. :)
(Now, if you'd mentioned DISNEY ANIMATED 90'S, we could have *really*
named some names.)
Derek Janssen (and if we'd said 00's, we could've gotten that "In
defense of Treasure Planet" plug in)
ejanss@comcast.net
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Brian Griffin...
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Does this mean we're abandoning computers and other modern
technology and returning to earlier ways of doing things?
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Jay Shell...
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Are there any 2D animators left at Disney? I remember Eisner selling off the
drawing tables at one point... "burning bridges" and such. Now they have to
Chris Sobieniak...
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Like the ones I usually spotted on eBay daily I bet?
Now they have to
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start all over from scratch... heh, sounds kind of exciting. I wish them well.
Invid Fan...
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Many of the animators moved to CGI.
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Jay Shell
Chris Sobieniak...
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There's still a few places that specialize in building those desks
anyway.
Anim8rFSK...
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Desks are easy. Discs are hard. But there's got to be plenty of those.
Hell, they've probably got a pile in the junk room at WDW.
Chris Sobieniak...
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