The government wants to start stealing unused gift cards

Don't you just love it when the state thinks it knows best?

Unique...

A bill that hopefully will go nowhere. This guy can't seriously believe
that the state has any right to that money or that if passed, that the
courts would uphold this.

Not that I have any great love for merchants, but this is just plain
ridiculous.

KenStahl...

I suspect it is more of an early April Fool's joke. He knows
that such a bill would never make it out of committee, so he
has no reason not to joke about it.

DES...

BTW, he knows that is has a good chance of passing the assembly because the
Dems just took over (In Wisconsin, the Dems are Ultra Ultra left wing). It
has no chance of passing the Sate Senate.

Also what windfall for the merchant? How is buying a gift card and loosing
it any different then buying a product and losing it or breaking it?

DES...

I live in Wisconsin, just out side of Milwaukee, he is not joking......

Just an example of why Wisconsin is one of the highest taxed states in the
country.

David B...

what a dick.

Maverick...

I know, and the problem seems to be spreading like an epidemic.

Deuteros...

The preceding clause simply gives a reason for the amendment.

It could also be written: "Because a well regulated militia is necessary
to security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms
shall not be infringed."

Christopher Basken...

A clause which doesn't contradict the meaning of the second half. Are
you saying the Second Amendment *doesn't* clearly say the right of the
people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, just because it
talks about the necessity of a militia immediately beforehand?

There are two ways I can see to interpet the SA.

1: Because we need a militia -- which can be a threat to a free state,
even if it's necessary to maintain the security of that state -- the
people (*not* the militia) need to be able to arm themselves in order
to keep the militia in check.

2: Since we need a militia in order to maintain the security of a free

spam...

In order for there to be a well regulated Militia, the right of the
people to keep and bear arms must not be infringed.

state, the people need to be able to keep themselves armed in order to
function as that militia when needed.

Bob Kolker...

Both the Swiss and the Israelis agree. In Switzerland all males of a
certain age are legally part of the militia and the law requires that

spam...

So are they in America. It's called the Unorganized Militia, covered
by US Code.

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TITLE 10
Subtitle A> PART I > CHAPTER 13

§ 311. Militia: composition and classes

(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males
at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of
title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a
declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and
of female citizens of the United States who are members of the
National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are:
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and
the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the
militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval
Militia.
+++

they keep military weapons in working order and that the drill to
maintain proficiency. In Israel virtually all males and many females are
partive of the Tzahal (IDF).

Personally, I think the Founders meant the first interpretation rather
than the second, since they were, in general, distrustful of standing
armies.

Bob Kolker...

And for good reason. Standing armies gave the king (or ruling thug) an
incentive to conquest and repression of their own people.

Bob Kolker

wdstarr...

So when you say "the government" and "the state," you mean one
state representative in Wisconsin, right?

Deuteros...

Whose actions happen to also be the modus operandi of the government at large.

wdstarr...

What state or federal governments have instituted this policy that
Kessler's promoting?

Deuteros...

All of them. Extorting money from taxpayers simply because they say so is
standard operating procedure of governments.

wdstarr...

How many of them are claiming the money in unused gift cards?