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Is B5 still the best multiyear single story series?



Sat, 6 May 2006 00:35:37 -0400 rec.arts.tv
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aalucard...


Luke Curtis...
I have to disagree, IMHO the scripts were OK, but Boxleitner's
delivery was *so* poor, so wooden, he just looked like he was reading
off cue card and badly at that!, that is why I ploughed through S1
first time round despite the bad acting of the lead.


Ian Galbraith...
Not quite, just because IIRT would have been the season finale doesn't
mean they would have taken only 4 episodes to tell the story of the end
of the earth war in S5. Those episodes (in particular BTDATL) are rushed,

Luke Curtis...
I stand corrected if this is the case, that was reported as being the
case at the time. Season 4 was so arc heavy that it would surprise me
if was meant to be more as less the case...

so much so that I don't believe they would have been told in the same
way. Plus you now have 4 extra episodes in S4 part of which would have
been taken up with the telepaths, IIRC this came from JMS himself.


Ian Galbraith...
That doesn't jibe with what you wrote above. Even if the Earth War was
over 4 episodes into S5 then season 5 isn't after the war it features the
end of the war.


Pete B...
Not entirely, since he tells it differently elsewhere. He took 4
episodes from season 5 - not the first 4, but 4 that wrapped out the
civil war - they could have been from the middle of the season.
We are in the second year of Lost and I swear the writers are making it
up as they go along. X-Files the same except story never really got
resovled.

Did JMS really create for SF the way to do a single story multiyear
series?

Granted there were lots of problems with B5. The final season seemed
like an afterthought. Lets face it the story should have ended at the
end of season 4 with mankind joining the Old Ones.

But JMS seemed to have done it right in terms of creating a story at the
start and sticking to it with small changes and adjustments throughout.
In restrospect JMS seemed to have created an outline for what was going
to happen with each season and episode instead of just having a premise
without longterm storyline outline X-Files and Lost seem to have fallen
into the latter catagory.

Earth Final Conflict as mediocre as that show was also seemed to have
had a longterm storyline besides a premise.

Both B5 and E:FC were syndicated shows who for doing a multiyear arc
seemed to have understood the concept of long term outline and story.
With each episode a chapter line a novel.

I expect network show should try to achieve greater then syndicated.

Buffy also had good single season story lines that seemed to have been
created with each season at the start and longterm storyline planning
was used.

How is it that JMS and Whedon got it right on how to do longterm
storylines but Abrams hasn't it.

I really think the next SF show with a long multiyear storyline needs to
use JMS or Whedon as their models. Maybe its because both were
storytellers to begin with who know about plotting long term.

Maybe its nostalgia that it appears JMS got it so right with mulityear
storylines.

PastaLover...
If JMS got it right, he forgot most of what he knows when he
transitioned to comics. His Spider-Man, although individual stories are
great, lacks much of his former long-term oversight that that B5 had.

Captain Infinity...
Yeah but comics are only read by 10-year-old boys, and what do *they*
care?

ANIM8Rfsk...
JMS' 'writing' on Spider-Man is well below the 10-year old boy level.


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Captain Infinity


Ken from Chicago...
How much control will Marvel Comics give to any creator of their most
popular character?

Meanwhile there is JMS' SUPREME POWER.


Brian Henderson...
I've come to the conclusion that you can't trust JMS with other
people's characters. When he's creating it himself, he's wonderful.
B5, Rising Stars, Midnight Nation, all fantastic pieces of work.

Then you give him Spider-Man and the Fantastic Four and he falls
apart. Why? Because he's suddenly got to deal with things other
people did with the character before he got there.
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