"Star Trek Enterprise," in hindsight, was a really great show.

I'm watching an old episode right now, and boy was this show cancelled
before its time. It had some great characters, from the whimsical Doctor
Phlox to the stern Captain Archer. The relationships were very well-
developed, like Trip's friendship with Reed, Reed and T'Pol's tenuous
interactions with Archer, and of course the Trip and T'Pol romance.

"Enterprise" was actually one of the better "Star Trek" series, and very
well done science fiction in general.

RichA...

You are the hindquarters of a horse for thinking this.

ravimotha...

Woah there.. I want to refute that claim, I think the best 2 from a
technical and story point view, where the later seasons of the next
generations. and star Trek ds9

In both cases , oth got of to rocky starts , because they had a new cst
of characters nd they didn't have any history, especially with each
other, in both cases it took a 3 series to guive them enough time to
be rounded characters.

from Story points once you had the borg and cardassian wars(and the
shapeshifters whose name escapes me), was when both fianlly had
definition which gave the characters emphasis and drive,

Voyager wandered around lost and was stuck in the same plot device for
far toolong before they got a real protaganist, and by the time it had
done this we had all sworn off it.
granted the last episode is very good but why did it have to ake so
long..

as I have said in other threads what Enterprise did well was forge the
relationships and some of the character stuff, but it forgot the rule
of a new show..

at the start you have to have a Monster of the week device to give the
characters something to bond against. unfortunately they decided that
time travelling aliens was the device.

having said that when they started making the common enemy the earth
alliance , the series started to work, unfortunately it was too litlle
too late.

stocksami...

I liked it as well. I am a big scifi fan, but I never was a big fan of
any of the Star Trek series. I watched them from time to time, but
never made a point of watching. At first I didn't care much for STE
either, but it grew on me and I put it on my TIVO and didn't miss any
of the last 3 seasons. Sure there were some clunkers and the Nazi
thing was dreadful and I really don't like time travel stories but I
still liked the characters and the series.

jewahe...

Enterprise lost me when they ship encountered the Borg. I had already
been disgusted by the show, but this episode completely ignored the
internal timeline of the show (even worse than introducting 7 of 9 in

jewahe...

That makes it even worse.

If I remember First Contact correctly, all the Borg died when the Queen
was dipped in the coolant.

Regardless, the real point is the lack of creativity that the
Enterprise episode highlighted.

Voyager).

Between Voyager and Enterprise, I realized at that point that there was
simply no creative energy left in the writers and producers. With
Voyager, they got stuck on the "exploring human-ness" aspects of 7 of 9
(which was done far better with Data) and "exploring Klingon-ness" of
the Maquis Engineer (pretty bad when I can't even remember a main
character's name, and this aspect was done much better with Worf).
In Enterprise, they couldn't even come up with a new, interesting
enemy, but had to mine past shows, and ruin the timeline completely.

Archer just wasn't that interesting a captain, and the crew was mostly
blah. And if I had to see Trip in his underwear one more time, I'd have
thrown something at the TV. The only good thing going for it was the
Vulcan's b00bs...but what they were attached too wasn't interesting.

RichA...

I hated that doctor. His clipped delivery reminded me of the typical
Canadian actor.
T'Pol was reasonably well-done, Archer was a girl, Trip came off like a
low-rent Tom Paris.

Anybody...

I just realised with "hindsight" Enterprise *is* probably an excellent
show, but not many of us have eyes in our bottoms. ;-)

Of course, Beavis & Butthead did get the ideas for Enterprise out of
their bottoms, so I guess it makes some sort of sense.

David Johnston...

OK so where are my transporters, holodecks, phasers, and anti-gravity
propulsion?

Mark Nobles...

A transporter was used early, like the pilot episode. After that, not
so much. A holodeck appeared in a first season episode, but on another
ship not the E. Phasers were called phase pistols, but had the same
effects as phasers. And anti-gravity propulsion never appeared in any
Trek series or movie.

ravenlynne...

Are you wearing a tin suit?

Captain Infinity...

Well, you've convinced me! Good job!

**
Captain Infinity

Darrel Knutson...

It was more realistic than all previous series and my favorite of them all.

Forge...

A member of a race that purports to be committed to complete
unadulterated logic, running around in skintight Spandex and high-heel
boots, is not "realistic."

CrossfaceWalls...

Does it really matter if it was good or not? Put on some goofy pointy
ears or have someone with ridges on their head, tight fitting shirts
with the emblem on the chest, and one hot chick running around while a
bunch of stiffs in faux British accents babble about "The Federation",
"The Association", "The Nation" or what not and Star Trek geeks will
claim it's the best show ever and should run for twenty years.

David Johnston...

Bunk. Enterprise didn't branch out at all. Apart from the Vulcans
all the changes were purely cosmetic. "Phase Pistols" instead of
Phasers. A noninterference policy that was just TNGs Prime Directive
without the official name. It was the same old, same old.

glassman...

Oh you must be the one that liked it! I still think that the downfall
from the beginning was the casting of Bakula, a solid grade B TV actor. It
was a combination of his characters writing, but mostly his horrible wimpy
portrayal. This pre-Kirk captain should have been more adventurous,
swashbuckling, and amusing. Instead we got a stoic, prime directive driven,
sissy-boy.

Anthony Cerrato...

I sorta agree his casting was a big factor in the initial
dislike of the show--past the first season tho I think he
grew into the role pretty well. I'd say that well over 90%
of Trek fans watching the show would say that the time
travel tropes were the biggest spoilers for the basic
storylines--they ruined the entire ST concept! And of course
that horrible opening song theme! If Cotto had run the show
from the start we would have had the perfect saga of the
early years of Starfleet and the birth of the Federation and
the proper link-ups to TOS. Cotto seem to be an authentic
Trek fan! ...tonyC

JK Sinrod
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

James Craine...

One of the biggest things that turned me off about this was
the Vulcans. They were so "human", I didn't see any
difference. Ok, so they lack a sense of humour. But they
were petty in their treatment of humans on earth,( that was
a big plot point early on). Later we meet T'Pols family and
they are having of a very human problem with politics
playing the major role in their careers. If logic will not
overcome this then who needs Vulcans.

I liked Spocks Vulcans "Jim,you proceed from a false
assumption, I have no feelings to hurt." Not that TOS was
perfectly consistent either.

Robert J. Kolker...

As Rodenberry Clones go, it was o.k.. Especially the theme song.

joesterl...

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"Faith of the Heart"?

As opposed to what?

"Faith of the Pancreas"?

Tomorrow we face the enemy, but be brave and don't lose pancreas... :^)

- moshe

Bob Kolker