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It's Hard Out Here For Some Blacks To Understand OSCARZ Award For Pimp Song
Tue, 07 Mar 2006 00:00:38 -0500
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Voice Of Reason...
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"It was a struggle for us last night because we wanted to root for the
blacks, but the blacks were pimps and hos on the Oscars, so it was
confounding," she said. "Image is everything, and we have to be so
careful about the way we position ourselves in front of larger
audiences."
Von Bailey...
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Image is not everything and anyone with such a superficial concept of
reality really should try harder at accumulating some depth.
Voice Of Reason...
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Well alas not everyone in the `hood is as "deep" a thinker as you
believe yourself to be. Also some have at least a modicum of pride
and self-respect and don't wish to be associated in any way with
street thugs, pimps and hos. Imagine THAT.
Von Bailey...
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Now all you have to do is explain why they are being associated with
such people simply because some people sang a song on the television.
Only bigots and racists would assume that black people are represented
by that song and why should they care what bigots and racists think?
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"The only place many people see our culture is through movies and on
television, and at the same time, this country is experiencing an
influx of people coming over here from all over the world, and the
only thing they see of black America through the media is . . . pimps
and gangsters and all of that. It's always some low-down brother or
some welfare mother."
Von Bailey...
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Why should anyone be concerned about people who gets their information
about a very diverse culture of people from the television?
Voice Of Reason...
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See above.
Von Bailey...
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I did. You didn't explain why they should be concerned, you assume
they should be concerned without saying why.
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Particularly offensive to Robinson, 36, was the performance by hip-hop
group Three 6 Mafia, featuring men dressed as pimps and women in the
hot pants and rabbit furs of streetwalkers. "I have no problem with
movies and songs being gritty," she said, "but I have a problem with
something that falls just short of a minstrel show."
Von Bailey...
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Then he shouldn't be watching. That's what the television dial is
for. I managed not to look at it at all and it didn't affect my life
in the least.
Voice Of Reason...
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Guess what, I didn't watch the show either, not one minute. But the
problem is that over 30 million Americans *did* tune in. And they saw
Hollyweed give them a minstrel show. You've come a long way since
MLK baby?
Von Bailey...
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Sure have and as such I don't have to worry about bigots such as
yourself using television shows as a representation of me as a black
person. Many people are aware that there is a difference between a
television awards show and reality and the numbers grow daily.
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WHAT on earth were the Oscar voters thinking?
Von Bailey...
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That the song did a good job representing the movie.
Voice Of Reason...
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So what, virtually every movie made in the past few decades comes with
a soundtrack. In many cases, these do a "good job of representing"
the movie they are associated with. So there is nothing unique about
the pimp song that merits an award.
Von Bailey...
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Says the person who hasn't seen the movie or listened to the song in
context. All you needed were your racist assumptions about rap music
and your usual diatribe.
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Von Bailey...
Von Bailey...
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This is the only relevent comment in the article.
Voice Of Reason...
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IYO.
Von Bailey...
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I don't pretend to represent any other.
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All these people commenting on a song and not one actually said that
they saw the movie except this one. Demonstrating that they have the
same standards for judgement that you do. They don't need all the
evidence to make a decision, they are perfectly willing to prejudge it
based on superficial information.
Voice Of Reason...
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The award is for a song celebrating pimps, hos, and niggaz. It's NOT
about the movie. Those black folks on the street who were interviewed
for the article know this. The lyrics to this piece of trash have
been well documented.
Von Bailey...
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And if it were the lyrics that were being judge instead of the song
within the context of the movie anyone offering an opinion who has not
seen the song in the context of the movie is making uninformed
judgements. Your standard met yet again.
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