Next Star Trek series should be about?

If there is a new Star Trek series what should it be about? My choice

tmcd...

Any new Star Trek series should be about four episodes long.

David Barnett...

Then it should be poroduced in the UK.
:)

joesterl...

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It should provide behind-the-scenes stuff that we've always wondered
about:

The 100 year struggle to develop the warp toilet.

Kirk's tendency to express his peeve at planets by emptying the ship's
toilets over such planets.

BTW, did anybody ever figure out the 3 sea shells instead of toilet
paper in the movie "Demolition Man"?

- moshe

copeab...

If there *must* be another ST series, it should have nothing to do with
the Federation. No Federation warship with a Federation crew tooling

mvp...

I like this best of all.

Say, a mixed colony of Humans, Andorians, Vedala, Vulcans,
Klingons, Horta, Caitians, Tellarites, Skorr, and Gorn.

Civilians, starting a colony on a wild planet.

Anthony Cerrato...

Hmmm, that has possibilities too! Star Trek:The Diaspora!
Maybe rather than an ordinary ship, the first intergalactic
generation ship! The pioneer galactic explorers head for,
say, Andromeda to explore and colonize Earth-like planets
along the way...much jolliness and adventure ensues. (Also
gives us a chance to resurrect those bugs that almost took
over Starfleet once as one new villain--I don't think they

Ken from Chicago...

You mean arcs or that it should be a mini-series?

ever found out what galaxy they came from.)
...tonyC

ravenlynne...

I liked Andromeda.

ravenlynne...

I liked Highlander:raven also.

Ken from Chicago...

Duh, with your name ....

ravenlynne...

My name predates that show, I think...I adopted it in 1995...

What I didn't like was the THE CROW tv series.

Ken from Chicago...

I've been saying that literally for years that Trek should go with more
arcs.

Ken from Chicago...

ARGH! You'll RUE the day you made me remember that!

ravenlynne...

Hee...but it's better than the crow movie with furlong and david
boreanaz...That was a stinker.

Wayland...

They already did "Star Trek: The Fall", it was in 4 parts called
Voyager, Enterprise, Insurrection, & Nemesis.

Michael Bowker...

No, that was about the distruction of the FRANCHISE! :) He wants to
do one about the fall of the Federation (that was Andromeda).

Wayland...

Well, when he said "Star Trek: The Fall" those four are what popped
into my head.

Wayland
...unless you mean Riker and Troi playing in a pile of leaves.

Ken from Chicago...

Not your fault. Anyone else could have thought the same.

Ken from Chicago...

But it would be nice to make it official--and not stink as much as
ANDROMEDA.

Wayland
...style in search of a subject.

around the galaxy.

Ms_Tangent...

There was very brief talk of a made for TV Trek movie.
It was going to take place in Dominion space with some Voyager and DS9 cast
members involved. One side story was Seven of Nine rescuing her parents from a
Borg invasion force.

Brian Tkatch...

Fantasy Planet.

Have Ricardo Montalban invite people to his holodeck.

Or maybe just that funny radio antenna planet.

JXStern...

I presume it should follow some more recent SF modes, newer than the
1950s space opera model of the originals.

How about a Berserker war, giant destructive space robots, lots of
opportunity for cyborgs and cyberspace. Work thru the Saberhagen
collection.

How about a biowar, in which a breakaway colony mutates and declares
war on the mother world? Do some nano-nano's, too.

My favorite has been touched on by Andromeda and SGA, some alien race
that maybe isn't too bright, but there are just trillions of them.

Anim8rFSK...

TNG already has those.

Rumor is they were based on the writers.

Ken from Chicago...

Or a mysterious race known only as the "Xec Cue Tiv".

but there are just trillions of them.

Base it on the Glen Cook Shadowline series. Big story arc.

Or maybe make a series based on cannibalizing the works of Larry
Niven's "Known Space" series, with attribution, Ringworld, Protectors,
even Puppeteers, Kzinti (and just how rich is Niven getting on just
the options money for all his stuff?)

mvp...

I think Niven started the writing business rich enough not to
need to care, other than he wanted to write and be published.

tmcd...

Niven had a grandfather named Edward L. Doheny. You can find him in
histories that cover the Elk Hills and Teapot Dome oil scandals:
Granddad Doheny was the "acquitted of giving the bribe that Interior
Secretary Fall was convicted of receiving". Doheny is also mentioned
in a Beach Boys song "Surfin' USA": I assume it's Doheny State Beach.

Doheny and his family had a great dislike of useless money-sucking
parasites and wanted their descendents to go out and make money on
their own, or at least do something. Hence Niven deciding to try
writing.

The Duct Tape Avenger...

Most beginning writers write for years before they get published; not so
with Niven. That's because he lived off a trust fund for the first year
of his career. He was able to write full-time before he saw a dime from
publishing. (This was in the intro to one of his story collections; I
forget which one though.)

What you said is probably true, and I doubt the trust fund was enough to
live his whole life on, but he had a pretty comfortable start.

Anim8rFSK...

And who said there's options money on his stuff? He wrote The Slaver
Weapon himself, that dreadful Outer Limits "Inconstant Moon" was, what,
a decade ago, and it's been 2 or 3 years since Sci-Fi announced
Ringworld, got the premise wrong in press releases - twice - and then
eventually buried it, apparenlty never to be heard of again.

Larry says he would LIKE there to be more adaptations of his stuff, even
if they're bad ones, but I don't know of any others in the offing.

It would be nice if he got paid for all the rip-offs of his stuff, like
Halo, Wing Commander, Tin Man, and countless versions of Lucifer's
Hamner.

Ken from Chicago...

Ah, the Pakled Invasion.

"We are looking for things that make us go: dilithium crystals, wheat, body
parts, whatever."

Brent McKee...

There's a perfect plot thread left dangling from the end of DS9. What
happens when an empire collapses? Answer: all sorts of nastiness. And
the Cardassian Empire has collapsed more resoundingly than most. You
have Cardassian factions trying to gain control of the Empire or maybe
just a little chunk of it. You've got Romulans and maybe even Klingons
angling to gain territory because after all the fought and died for it,
it should be theirs. You've got lesser empires and expansionist planets
looking for their piece of the action, maybe wanting to claw their way
up to where Cardassia was. I swear you've even got a justification for
space pirates - Cardassian captains with ships but no real loyalty to
anyone except their crews, and people willing to buy stuff, no
questions asked. And trying to keep things from exploding into a full
scale cataclysm, a Federation still not fully recovered from the
Dominion War even with the knowledge that Katherine Janeway returned
with from th Gamma Quadrant.

The series focuses on a pair of Federation vessels, one a smaller ship
- something like a destroyer - and the other an older model cruiser.
They're all Star Fleet can base in the area. The operate out of Deep
Space 9, commanded by Star Fleet Captain Kyra Nerys, but they rarely
get there and while Captain Kyra has operational command (due to her
expert knowledge of the region), conditions mean that most of the
serious decisions are made by the captains who have to prevent all hell
from breaking loose without starting a war themselves.

Casting notes: Make the captain of the smaller ship a non-Human
non-Vulcan. Maybe a descendant of Shran. Besides occassional
appearances by Kyra, about the only familiar face should be a certain
young Ferengi engineer. The crews should be diverse but with a number
of Bajorans. No Q! No Next Generation people at all - even Riker.

Ken from Chicago...

It was a good enough idea for Peter David's STAR TREK: NEW FRONTIER.

jjj_soper...

Mudd's female androids fighting for control of a planet against the
green women. The battles consist of one-on-one wresting until clothes
are torn off and they start kissing.

Put it on HBO with hi-def and 5.1 audio, it's a surefire hit.

El Puerco...

I'm already watching it...IN MY MIND!

would be set it up 100 years after the Dominion War. Similar to having
TNG 75(?) years after TOS.

Major ChrisB...

people and aliens in space

Brian Tkatch...

Actually, I think TNG/DS9 got the technology just where we want it. Why
make up so many new things?

If it's new content we want, isn't the Beta Quadrant still unexplored?

I'd also like to see them revist the planets from TOS and see how
they've progressed.

Of course, for a real shocker, they could make Star Tek: Borg, and show
the trials and travails of the Borg as they took over people. Or just a
series about Q. John Delancy was probably my TNG favorite.

Ken from Chicago...

5 to 10 years after VOY would be nice. A few minor advances in tech, and
enough time to set up the Federation any way you want and to allow former
characters to reappear at about the same age as the actors.

It should be about the Enterprise. Have a human captain with a Klingon
wife/medical doctor and a child, a Ferengi first officer, Romulan as
security officer, a Vulcan navigator and humans as course.

Along with Data as science officer/advisor. Data comes out of retirement
from teaching to join a new crew of a new Enterprise.

Cliff Hartle...

Um .... impossible

Spoiler space if you haven't seen Star Trek: Nemesis

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Data "dies in this movie" :-(

John Reiher...

But not his clone, Rain Data...

mvp...

Good one...

mvp...

too many noobs too many noobs way too many noobs

copeab...

I'm guessing it's a reference to the movie _Rain Man_ with Dustin
Hoffman.

Anthony Cerrato...

Ah-ha! Thanx. But how could that apply--Data was Sherlock

Anthony Cerrato...

Van Pelt

Anthony Cerrato...

calweb.com

Anthony Cerrato...

(schlockmercenary.com)

Ken from Chicago...

The website for it went up before the series debuted and it had all this
cool backstory ... squandered.

Ken from Chicago...

Does this mean Lore is played by Tom Cruise?

Holmes after all! :) ...tonyC

bllbickel...

Oh yeah. That makes it impossible, all right.

The show should be about the Enterprise going past the Galactic rim and
exploring that space.

Wayland...

That would be the boringest show ever.

"Stardate 123456789.2: Still more nothing. We've been heading away
from the galactic rim at warp 7 for the past three years and have
found nothing! NO PLANETS! NO STARS! NO CUTE ALIEN CHICKS WITH
EXTRA BOOBS! NO FRELLING AMOEBAS! OR EVEN JUST A ROGUE TURD FLOATING
BY!

~deep breath~

I so should not have told that Admiral how hideous that alien was.
How was I supposed to know it was his mother though?"

Wayland
...unless you enjoy fishing shows.

Ken from Chicago...

Wait til they run into the Yuuzhan Vong.

Anthony Cerrato...

Of course exploring the space beyond the galactic rim means
going to and exploring OTHER GALAXIES (and their star
systems!) ...tonyC

Ken from Chicago...

Wait til they bump into the Wraith.

Lets face it a ST series set before Voyager as what happened to the
series Enterprise just messes up continuity. Putting the series well
past DS9/Voyager/TNG they minimize screwing up the continuity.

Anthony Cerrato...

I totally agree with your proposed new series, ship mission,
and timeline. I would hope that data would go along with
joining it (he hasn't had much enthusiasm for going on in
the past.) I think the officers and crew of the Enterprise
should probably be a bit more eclectic (including 1-2 new
races too maybe) than you seem to envision, but that can all
be worked out. I forget how old Phlox's folks live, way not
long enuf to bring him back but maybe one of his grandsons
or sumptin' could be the new bones (played by the same actor
of course)--if not, certainly the holodoc program is still
around (with same actor!) Maybe the ship needs 2 docs! :)

What should we do about maintaining continuity re: the
following points:
1. Does Captain Sisco/Prophet ever return? (If he does, it
would hafta be after Jake dies to conform to continuity.)
What would be his place? Would his 2nd son or grandson be of
age for Starfleet and this mission?
2. Will the future lives of the rest of the characters
(and/or their families) on any of the other series be at
least mentioned or explored? This can at least be done in
historical Starfleet records, reports etc.
3. It would be nice if continuity with the various ST novels
be maintained also. Are there any other open questions that
could be addressed? I know I'm forgetting a bunch.
...tonyC

David Johnston...

But how would they give the impression that technology had advanced?

Joe Curwen...

You have to ask? Just add "super" or "mega" to the names of the gadgets. Trust
me, it works.

Ken from Chicago...

Precisely the problem I had with it. You get to a point where the tech gets
so advance for Trek tech (which is pretty far in advance of most sf
universes depicted in the media, especially for tv series) and you have
difficulty a) making serious challenges to them week after week and b)
having the production budget to convincingly portray that advanced tech.

The Duct Tape Avenger...

"I haven't worked a two-dimensional control panel in a long time... how
did we manage?" -Geriatric Bashir, "The Visitor"

Unless ... the 25 century sees the FALL of the Federation.

That would give you an huge out for depicting lower tech on average, with
isolated higher tech. Even if the Federation re-built, the fall would
explain why technology stagnated, ala BABYLON 5's "The Deconstruction of
Falling Stars" showing a millenium after B5 the Earth is rebuilding from a
massive war and are back up to Medieval / Renaissance level tech or
ANDROMEDA in which a 3-galaxy Commonwealth has fallen and after 300 years of
suspended animation near a black hole, the captain of the Andromeda
Ascendent finds technology at or below what he remembers.

David Johnston...

It's not actually that they won't violate previously established
continuity just as much, of course. It's that people care so much
less.

trike...

If there's another one, it should be an all-CGI show. That way they
can do anything at all, with any of the crews from the other series.

Ken from Chicago...

ST:TAS so ruled!

Ken from Chicago...

STAR TREK: SFI (StarFleet Intelligence)

In the wake of not one but two devastating wars, the Federation ups the
value of defense. However its resources are stretched thin in helping
rebuild devastated planets and star systems across the quadrant, rebuild and
restock the remains of the the Fleet, as well as develop new defenses, but
all those take time and even more resources.

Faster, cheaper, easier is recruiting and dispatching intelligence agents
...
... past the frontier to look out for more threats
... amongst TPTB scouring for those who would betray them all
... and to look for--and if needed "deal with"--those would exploit the
anarchy throughout the Alpha Quadrant, nipping it in the bud before it gets
a chance to take root and spread.

The series would be extremely "streamlined":