2nd Season Dr. Who - Tooth and Claw - 5 star poll

"Tooth and Claw"
10-6-06 Dr. Who

Tony Calguire...

Wow... there really was a "bad wolf" after all! :-)

5 stars (Hadrocodium wui)

0-1 stars (T-Rex, 64 million B.C.)

Lizard...

3.0

Nowhere near as good as Tenant's first two episodes. This was sort of
by-the-numbers and seemed more a setup for Torchwood than anything
else. Victoria's characterization seemed inconsistent at times, and

Patty Winter (patty1...

Because she could be both gentle and severe? Seems like the
characterization of a real person to me.

Lizard...

No, because she seemed to switch personalities abruptly. Why lie about
shooting the monk, for example?

Rose's constant efforts to get Victoria to state her famous phrase
were forced.

Patty Winter (patty1...

So was it authentic for the queen to be saying "I" instead of "we"?

pbowles...

I'm actually happy she never did say "We are not amused", since like
most famous phrases ("Kiss me, Hardy" springs to mind) it was probably
never actually said by the person it was attributed to.

BTR1701...

I've heard that Kirk never actually says "Beam me up, Scotty" in Star
Trek, either.

Marcovaldo...

What he actually says is "Judy Judy Judy".

Victor Velazquez...

Not "play it again, Scotty"?

pbowles...

I'm actually happy she never did say "We are not amused", since like
most famous phrases ("Kiss me, Hardy" springs to mind) it was probably
never actually said by the person it was attributed to.

Lizard...

Don't know, having not studied how she spoke in private.

One question: I didn't understand the Doctor's listing of the
consequences of the werewolf species taking over the throne.

Here's a transcript I found of that section:

SIR ROBERT
But why does it want the throne?

ROSE
That's what it wants. It said so, the... the Empire of the Wolf.

DOCTOR (with foreboding)
Imagine it... the Victorian Age accelerated... starships and missiles fueled by coal and driven by steam... leaving history devestated in its wake...

How did the Doctor know what would happen if the werewolf gained power?

Victor Velazquez...

Well, he did say only to "imagine it." An educated guess I'm guessing
(educatedly).

doctor...

REcall the first time the Sontarans came to Earth?

pbowles...

We don't even know he was right - but we can assume that he guessed,
based on the fact that the wolf was an alien and so more advanced than
humans, and based on the technology it would have had available.

pbowles...

4.0 from me, in any event. It was clever how Russell T Davies
devised a supernatural reason for Prince Albert's fine-tuning
of the Koh-i-Noor. Liked the line about the library being the
finest arsenal in the world, too.

Marcovaldo...

I'd give it a 4. Quite an improvement after two mediocre episodes. One thing
that wasn't shown (at least not in the American broadcast) is how the gang
dispatched the martial artist - monks.

Eric D. Berge...

Was there also a bit cut out where Victoria shoots the head monk? I
was wondering how they got from that to her giving the Major credit
and him back on his feet and fighting - it seemed like he ought to
have been severely injured (at least) when the monk took his gun and
knocked him out.

doctor...

Review coming in the 3rd week of October from me.

erilar...

Well, since I have no idea what that 5 is for, I'd best not award it. I
quite enjoyed it, however, and the way they got rid of the werewolf was
a bit surprising, which was nice 8-)

whodunit...

Wui are not amused.

David B...

4. Torchwood begins and werewolves. Yay!

doctor...

Better than New Earth?

Victor Velazquez...

Hmmm, let's see...

He solves the crisis in NE by mixing dozens of medical serums and spraying
them into the air, which then somehow magically make everyone better.

TaC gives us a nice twist on history, calls back two plot points
simultaneously, and offers a marginally less scientifically ridiculous
solution to the crisis.

TaC by a TKO. :-)

doctor...

I loved New Earth, therefore ...

erilar...

Yes 8-)

doctor...

This must be a big howl for you.

Teh Wraith O Smeg...

:D:D:D

I love this one :D

:D

DId I mention? I LOVE werewolves? And in Doctor Who!!! YES!

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Jack Bohn...

Suitably creepy beginning.

Midway through I began to wonder: 40 years from now, will today's
children grown up have the same fondness for these stiffly moving
computer animated beasts that I have for the work of Ray
Harryhausen?

Anim8rFSK...

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. If Doctor Who didn't have a

Marcovaldo...

She was shown pointing her gun at him, but the shooting took place off
camera (or perhaps it was edited out of the SciFi channel version).

decades long history of laughable special effects, I probably would have
turned it off just based on the wolf, which would have been too bad, as
it was a good show.

Ken from Chicago...

DOCTOR WHO is about the laughable fx but about the story.

Jack Bohn...

DOCTOR WHO's stories are pretty laughable, too. It's about the
cool or funny moments embedded into them.

-Wraith- out of five
The Christmas Invasion ****
New Earth **
Tooth And Claw ***** :D

Ace...

I really didn't care for it. I thought it was sub-par.
Ace

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