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"Pie and chips"???!!
Sat, 27 May 2006 07:06:28 -0500
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Ken from Chicago...
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Lift = elevator
Ken from Chicago...
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ANIM8Rfsk...
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I have heard people tell someone else to web-search something though, while
having no idea what that person is actually doing.
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Captain Infinity...
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Pop? Pop? Why would someone ask for your father if what they really
wanted was some nose candy?
MAKE SENSE, DAGNABBIT!!
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Captain Infinity
Ken from Chicago...
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Hey, hippy, you get out of here high as kite on the dope, the smack, on the
junk, you're all hopped up on the horse.
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Ken from Chicago...
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More like, you wish!
Ken from Chicago...
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That's no problem as long as you don't gag his mouth.
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Rubber = eraser
Flat = apartment
Lorry = truck
Bonnet = hood (of a car)
Ken from Chicago...
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Yeah, some of those salad dressing give salads more calories than Big Macs
or Whoppers.
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Boot = trunk (of a car)
Crisps = chips
Chips = fries
Biscuit = cookie (or cracker)
Waistcoast = vest
Vest = t-shirt
Knickers = underwear
Tube = subway
Telly = television (or tv)
Advert = ad (or commercial)
But what on spinning Earth does the British gecko mean in those tv
CHI-MUM...
karl...
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Ya, that's what I thought you meant. And I maintain I've never heard of
anyone when ordering a pizza with a group to ask for 'just cheese' as in
cheese and sauce. I've encountered any number who've wanted many different
items included or excluded but never 'just cheese'.
Ken from Chicago...
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Eeew, no sauce? That's just wrong. Why not just get a grilled cheese?
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My personal topping dislike is pineapple. It's a fine food. But it doesn't
belong on a pizza. Don't like pineapple with ham either.
Mark Nobles...
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Get yourself a dessert pizza, with pineapple and mandarin orange slices
Yummy. Oh, and it might help to leave off the tomato sauce for this one,
just a little olive oil on the crust, then some mozzarella, and then the
sweets. Maybe add some ham or bacon. Yummy.
Everything's better with bacon.
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Ken from Chicago...
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Naw, it's Fish and Chips! But Pie and chips are popular too. In fact I
Ken from Chicago...
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If they had said Burgers and fries or burgers and chips or even fish and
chips, the confusion would have been ameliorated.
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make them for my hubby. To high cholesterol for me.
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commercials when saying that insurance quotes are as popular as "pie and
chips"?!
David Brewer...
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Fish and chips was once more of a seaside foodstuff, fresh fish
Ken from Chicago...
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Yeah, I first of fish and chips in the 70s with Arthur Treacher's(?) Fish
and Chips chain of fast food restaurants here in Chicago. But not pie and
chips.
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being dearer inland (and deep fried fish and potato was somewhat
of an exotic foreign import). The true English fast food is pie
and mash, with peas and gravy. The ubiquitous potato chip has
infiltrated subsequently. Pie and chips, chips and mushy peas, or
just chips and gravy are common meals/snacks from an English
takeaway. In the wider fast food market, none of these sell as
well as "CTM": Chicken Tikka Masalla.
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I have some fondness of British culture, accents and language, and while
suzee...
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No, shepherd's pie is a common dish to use up leftovers. Meat, topped
with mashed potatoes and baked until the potatoes are browned.
Mark Nobles...
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sounds good, but wouldn't the chips be redundant?
Obveeus...
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Nope...the 'chips' are the side dish of french fries.
Mark Nobles...
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Right. And you don't think mashed potatoes and french fries are
redundant?
Obveeus...
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They have a totally different look/feel/taste. Do you consider cooked
carrots, raw carrot slivers in a salad, and carrot cake to be redundant?
David Johnston...
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I'd be wondering whether the cook had a bumper crop in her garden.
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Mark Nobles...
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completely unrelated. in the salad and cake, the carrot is a flavoring,
not the center of the meal like the potato in the shepherd pie is. If I
went to eat Chinese, I would consider steamed rice and fried rice
Obveeus...
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Fried rice is a side dish. Steamed rice is what you put the meat/veggies on
top of. Not redundant at all.
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redundant, despite the difference in look, feel, taste and
presentation.
Default User...
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Ok, how about pasta with a side of garlic bread?
tiddlesslocombe...
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A better example would be to order lasagna and then a side of linguini
with marinara sauce. ;-D That's how I view Pie and Chips. You don't
need two starches that are so similar.
Ken from Chicago...
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Isn't that Italian cuisine in general, pasta, meat and tomato sauce (or
gravy, but that's another debate) with different names?
Kinda like Mexican cuisine is tortillas, meat, vegetables and tomato sauce
with different names?
suzee...
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Don't forget the frijoles...
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Of course, none of this would be an issue if they would just learn to speak
Jude Cormier...
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Some of us say "soda pop" LOL
Ken from Chicago...
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Those are folks who say they are fans of BOTH Cubs and Sox.
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Ken from Chicago...
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Beans aren't vegetables?
tiddlesslocombe...
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Beans like kidney, lima and soy are legumes.
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suzee...
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I thought you meant vegetables like tomatoes. But then, they're a fruit
I guess...
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English. ;-)
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Ken from Chicago...
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Well we make it a "stew"--or a "gumbo" if you're in Weeziana.
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Ken from Chicago...
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Oh, meat and potatoes. Sounds good.
So what's with the chips if you have potatoes in the pie?
suzee...
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Sounds like the reference wasn't for both at the same meal, but just to
popularity of the foods. (Read the first quote again)
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pepsi...
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I always thought the gecko was Australian.
Ken from Chicago...
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There are MULTIPLE geckos. The first one was voiced by an American, Kelsey
Grammer, then a Briton, David Kelley, and reportedly they've decided to make
the gecko more cheeky and give him a more East Ender cockney accent (cuz I
guess West Enders are too veddy veddy slim n slopper to be cheeky, er, I
meant prim and proper, didn't mean to go all apples and pears on ya,
Ken from Chicago...
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ARGH! Curses on you, Obveeus! I had never considered that. You'll rue this
day! Mark my words. Oh wait, I don't have a cat now. Wait, litter is
disinfectant. Yes, that's it. Nyah, so there.
Obveeus...
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See...even you can get visual images.
Ken from Chicago...
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No visual needed, merely the idea of it is disturbing--AND YOU'LL PAY for
that ... IDEA!
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guv'nor).
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Ms.B Haven...
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Exactly. Think more along the lines of "chicken pot pie" instead of
"apple pie".
ANIM8Rfsk...
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And are the chip what we in the USA call 'french fries'?
So he's really saying 'who would turn down free chicken pot pie and fries?'?
shawn...
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Except that the pie that I've seen (which may not be the norm) was
Ken from Chicago...
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Oh you're one of them, those who like COLD ketchup.
Obveeus...
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Naw...for the most part, ketchup is not on my menu. I may dip a fry in it
occasionally, but that is about it.
Ken from Chicago...
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Ketchup should be room temperature.
Obveeus...
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You live in Chicago...your idea of room temperature is probably close to the
temp on the inside of most refrigerators.
Ken from Chicago...
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Hmm, good point. Chicago has the most moderate weather in the country. I
forgot other cities have greater temperature extremes, warm or colder.
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shawn...
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Except in the summer time.
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Ken from Chicago...
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Why would I leave perfectly good pizza--at home--to cool when it can be
eaten?
I don't know what that means.
Oh wait, it's like at work when inevitably these cheese pizza and spinach
pizza left uneaten for the cleaning staff to clean after hour. But I
wouldn't order cheese pizza--much less spinach pizza, so it wouldn't be any
leftovers.
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much thicker than a chicken pot. So much so that it was designed to be
eaten like a sandwich.
Ken from Chicago...
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Wow. Now I'm getting hungry for this shepard's pie.
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suzee...
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Maybe like a pasty?
shawn...
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Yes, I think that's kind of the idea. Here's a page that shows one of
Ken from Chicago...
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In America "pasty" has a radically different meaning.
I don't know what the British or Australian terms are for what we call a
"pasty", but trust me, you probably wouldn't want to request a "pasty" from
an American restaurant.
It would be like asking a teacher for a "rubber".
suzee...
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It depends where you ask for it. In Michigan or Montana, they'd know
Ken from Chicago...
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Canadian invasion.
suzee...
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Nope - UK.
Ken from Chicago...
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There's a difference? Sorry, couldn't resist, tho come on, they both have
queens, parliaments, prime ministers, the metric systems, and a love/hate
relationship with the French (altho that seems to be well-nigh universal).
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what you mean. Probably a few other areas of the country where there's a
history of mining. Pasties were introduced to the US by the Cornish and
Irish miners (their wives actually) who took them to work for lunch.
suzee...
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Are you still thinking that they're something a stripper wears, rather
than a meat and vegetable turnover like thing....?
ANIM8Rfsk...
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What makes you think our strippers don't wear meat and vegetable turnover
like things?
suzee...
Granted, it costs a little extra . . .
Ken from Chicago...
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Dude, you know way too much about this. You haven't been hanging out with
Jeri Ryan's ex at those ... avant garde ... clubs, have you?
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suzee...
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Got to go to the private rooms for that eh?
Ken from Chicago...
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Wait, Chris Rock said those were champagne rooms.
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Mark Nobles...
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Man, what kind of places do you go to?
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Ken from Chicago...
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No (snicker), of course (chuckle) I knew you (giggle) meant the latter.
Ahem, Irish wives brought pasties to work for their husbands. Naturally I
would have thought of a meat and vegetable snack for the husband to bury
their faces in, and wash down with a spot of milk.
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Mark Nobles...
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Ow! You made my brain hurt. Who would want to eat something that had
been stuck to a dancer's nipple?
JacquesZMonkey...
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I'd prefer the present tense, but if it just came off, that's fine too.
Ken from Chicago...
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The past ends an infinitesimal amount ago from ... "now".
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suzee...
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Not that kind of pasty. The one that's dough filled with meat and
vegetables and baked.
Ken from Chicago...
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The other kind was filled with meat and salt, or at least saline.
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Obveeus...
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As another poster pointed out, the pie/chips don't *have* to mean at the
same meal. In that case, 'pie' could even mean something like 'apple pie'.
massello...
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Or it could mean the irrational number pi, as Dan Brown postulates in
his forthcoming book, The Gecko Code. But now we're going around in
circles.
Mark Nobles...
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Careful. You are coming awfully close to a pun. That is as much
appreciated around here as a mime.
Obveeus...
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Oh, I get it...because Apple pies are usually round. I missed the joke at
first since the last apple pie I ate was from McD's...and it was
rectangular...and calling it an apple pie was also a joke.
Ken from Chicago...
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Fine, but McD's apple pies--or apple pie "hot pockets"--are good and easy to
Ken from Chicago...
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"Chip butty"? It looks intriguing but that name is not the most appetizing
on the planet.
David Brewer...
Ken from Chicago...
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Butty is another word for sandwich, as is "sarny" and doubtless
numerous local variations.
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eat while driving--unlike Burger King's insane pie-shaped slice that's
Ken from Chicago...
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See, I'd go for a sarny twelve days a week before a butty.
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messy, next to impossible to get out of the pie-shaped box it's end, and
really difficult to eat while driving.
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Ken from Chicago...
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Ah, dude, you're crushing my groove with facts and seriousness.
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Ken from Chicago...
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Ketchup is the UNIVERSAL condiment! And while cats are the perfect pet,
CATSup is nothing but a MISpronunciation of ketchup.
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When was the last time you went out to eat and turned down the free side of
fries that came with your sandwich/burger? When was the last time you went
to someone's house and turned down the offer for a slice of pie after
dinner?
The Gecko has a good point.
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Ken from Chicago...
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Okay, that makes sense. Tho you'd think there'd be more pop cultural
references if it's a popular meal.
suzee...
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I've heard of British cuisine as being, um, let us say ... exotic ... I've
never heard of "pie AND chips" as some kind of meal, desert or side dish.
Unless, does "pie" mean something different in English than it does in
American?
I mean I've enjoyed a Big Mac, fries and apple pie from McDonalds but I
never thought of the "fries and pie" as its own entity. "Burger and fries",
Ophelia...
Ophelia...
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Nope:) Although if you want fish and chips you ask for a 'fish supper'
even though it might be mid day:))))
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... and deep fried pizza..... :(
Ken from Chicago...
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Is that British for deep dish pizza?
The Reid...
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No, deep dish is a US abomination that you can also find in UK. I
have had a deep fried pizza on the Amalfi coast BTW.
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The Reid...
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sure, like "ham and eggs" or "eggs and grits" or "toast and coffee", but
"pie and chips"?
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