Maccagate: Paul's phone bugged

That's got to be one of the worst photos of Paul ever! He looks a

BlackMonk...

We're making the assumption that it's real. Otherwise what are we talking
about? And Heather DOES know what was said and how it was said.

TAR...

Yes, Heather would, but we wouldn't. To say that "Stella sounds very
contemptuous of Heather" sounds, to me, like something one would say if
we had also heard the tape. It wasn't just an assumption that the story
is true, but went further with an assumption that we physically heard
its contents.

BlackMonk...

One way to avoid that is to keep one side from having any contact with the
child. Does anyone want that? Wouldn't it be better if they agreed to keep
the more hostile relatives (since it seems there isn't any hostility between
Heather and Paul themselves) away from Beatrice? (and I'm sure there are
relatives of Heather who blame Paul. That's just not as newsworthy, I guess)

TAR...

I disagree. I think it would be far better to try to come to an
agreement with these people, for the sake of the child, rather than to
keep them from having any contact with the family member/members. If
all else failed, avoiding contact would be the last resort.

BlackMonk...

We're talking about Heather's daughter. Why should Heather be the one to
accomodate Stella? Why should her concerns take a back seat to what Stella
would prefer?

TAR...

It doesn't. It just makes sense. If someone has a problem, you can't
expect others to make the first move in trying to resolve it. If it's
your problem, you have to be the one to find a solution.

BlackMonk...

Like Stella did with Heather?

TAR...

We don't know what conversations took place between the two of them.

little Woody Allenish.