Rubber Soul: The First Psychedelic Album

Chris Jepson...

Some possibilities might be:

Captain Beefheart -- Neon Meate Dream Of A Octafish, The Blimp
Ed Sanders -- Pindar's Revenge
The Residents -- Laughing Song, Sinister Exaggerator
Laurie Anderson -- Walk the Dog
The Doors -- Horse Latitudes, The End, When the Music's Over

I would have to say that, for all of these except possibly Pindar's

BlackMonk...

Eddie Lang and Django Reinhardt played acoustics, too. Does that make Rubber
Soul a jazz album?

Rev. Love...

Please do not take me out of context like that. I never stated that
folk had to be contained within the limits of acoustic guitars. You
reply wasn't warranted.

An advancement, if you will, from John's vision of

BlackMonk...

Actually, I prefer A Hard Day's Night.

Revenge, the total psychedelic effect comes from a combination of the
words, delivery, and music... so I'm not sure that I would claim that
the words, alone, as read on a piece of paper or computer screen, would
necessarily qualify as psychedelic. But in each case I think that the
psychedelicity of the piece is substantially enhanced by the lyrics.
(That is, to the extent that the piece would "blow one's mind", the
lyrics would play a large role.)

Chris Jepson

Subtle, but very true.
Late 1965.

Give the word a chance to say
That the word is just the way
It's the word I'm thinking of
And the only word is love

DanKaye...

Turn! Turn! Turn! is about as "folk" as you can get, structurally, no?

Dale Houstman...

Certainly, but Blackmonk will insist - because it is folk - that it can
thus not be psychedelic. It's a strange little axiom that precludes
using one's ears.

Rev. Love...

Axiom and Precludes! No name callin!

BlackMonk...

Another lie. I gave you examples of artists who I considered to be both.

poisoned rose...

Unless I missed a post, I believe your entire list of "examples"
boiled down to isolated Byrds and John Fahey tracks. No?

Lookingglass...

Ironically...there is no Hurdy Gurdy (one of my favorite instruments)
included in Donovan's song "HG Man".

dave (...tuned to a natural E...)

It's so fine, It's sunshine
It's the word, love

Say the word,
LOVE

awvvo...

Great album. but the true first psychedelic album will always be

Do not forget it. Ever.

DanKaye...

I can't forget it becaause I was THERE, and never heard it...

Even the LP's title sounds like a band from the Fillmore in 1967

"Iron Butterfly and Steppenwolf on Friday, Saturday will have Rubber

BlackMonk...

Yes, me reply was warrented. You made a weak point and the weak point I was
replying to wasn't the one you suggest I was replying to. I know you didn't
say folk had to be contained within the limits of acoustic guitars. You
suggested that the use of acoustic guitars made Rubber Soul folk. Tain't
necessarily so, as folk doesn't circumscribe all uses of acoustic guitars.

Rev. Love...

Once again, I demand you also refrain from suggesting that I stated
Rubber Soul was folk due to Acoustic Guitars. If you were to follow

BlackMonk...

This is the first time you asked that. Previously, you asked the opposite.

If you were to follow

along with the conversation, it was mentioned by a different poster
that acoustic guitars were an element of the folk genre. A very
important element that it just so happens Rubber Soul does display. So,

BlackMonk...

Again, lots of things that aren't folk also use acoustic guitars, so the
fact that Rubber Soul has them doesn't make it folk.

So,

I must request, keep your irrelevant attempts at a reply to yourself. I

BlackMonk...

How is saying something ON TOPIC irrelevant?

Rev. Love...

It's irrelevent when your point is to try and put words in my mouth.
Just for the sake of an argument. Seriously guy, you are not very smart
and I will now cease speaking to you. Thanks for nothing.

don;t understand were your point lies anyway. I bet you agree with me
that Rubber Soul is Folk Psych record but you just want to be a tough
guy. Save yourself the trouble as I do not get involved in trivial
displays of primitive behavior such as that, MATE.

BlackMonk...

I'm not your mate and I would never call it either folk or psyche.

Soul...."
~Bill Graham