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No Paul Single from Abbey Road?
16 Apr 2006 23:18:16 -0700
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Healthy Stealthy...
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Was Abbey Road the first Beatle's album that released singles from the
album? I know Something and Come Together were issued as singles.
godismycodependent...
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There were several UK singles that eventually wound up on the first few
UK albums: Please Please Me, Love Me Do, Can't Buy Me Love, Help!,
Ticket to Ride.
I think the first UK single not recorded specifically to be a single
but taken from an album was Eleanor Rigby/Yellow Submarine from
revolver.
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Surprisingly, none of Paul's songs were issued as singles, were they?
Chris Hoelscher...
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if i recall correctly,
yellow submarine/Elanor Rigby was released directly from Revolver
chris "to know me is to .... know me" hoelscher
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sequentially...
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I think people are bored today..asking questions...just as a joke. I
can't imagine this post is for real.
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dlarsson...
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Most of Paul's songs were just fragments that were joined-up.
Not a lot to pick from for single material.
donz5...
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Let's check the record:
Paul complete songs on AR:
donz5...
Maxwell's Silver Hammer
Oh! Darling
She Came In Through the Bathroom Window
John complete songs on AR:
Come Together
I Want You (She's So Heavy)
donz5...
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...which consisted of 2 fragments pieced together, much like
"Happiness" (4-5 fragments, that)
John Gutglueck...
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And how would you classify You Never Give Me Your Money? That may be
the tie-breaker.
donz5...
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Forgot about YNGMYM, and good point. New list!
Complete, unfragmented John songs on AR:
Come Together
Because
Complete, unfragmented Paul songs on AR:
Maxwell Silver Hammer
Oh! Darling
She Came In Through the Bathroom Window
Complete John song made up of fragmented parts on AR:
I Want You (She's So Heavy)
Complete Paul song made up of fragmented parts on AR:
You Never Give Me Your Money
Paul fragments on side 2 "that were joined up":
Golden Slumbers
Carry That Weight
The End
*Her Majesty
(*first added, then deleted from LP until engineer tacked it on at end)
John fragments on side 2 "that were joined up":
Sun King *
(*consists of 2 fragments, the first that earlier morphed into "Don't
Let Me Down")
Mean Mr. Mustard
Polythene Pam
John Gutglueck...
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I don't really disagree with you, donz5, but I'm in a philosophical
mood and have been reflecting on the distinctions among your three
classes of song.
What makes a song fragmentary? Apparently, it's not a simple matter
of being "joined up" to others because She Came In Through The
Bathroom Window is as joined up as anything and yet considered a
complete song rather than a fragment. I suspect we think of Bathroom
Window as complete because of its internal structure: It alternates
verse and bridge, as Beatles songs typically do (although its VBVVB
pattern is a bit unusual). By contrast, neither Mean Mr. Mustard nor
Polythene Pam has a bridge--just two well-developed verses. (Not that
completeness requires a bridge: In My Life, for example, has no
bridge, but it does have an instrumental break and a formal intro and
outro, which give it a sense of wholeness). On the other hand, Golden
Slumbers has a VBV structure, as does Sun King if we count its first
section as an instrumental verse. Why are they considered mere
fragments and not complete songs? Granted, Golden Slumbers is very
short, but Sun King's running time is greater than Bathroom
Window's. Still, we know that a suitably edited or extended version
of Bathroom Window *could* have been a single because the song *was* a
single for Joe Cocker in early 1970.
I wouldn't have put I Want You in the same class as You Never Give Me
Your Money. YNGMYM is a rhapsody (in the Greek sense of
"stitched-together song"), comprising several disparate sections,
none of which is repeated. That, to my mind, puts it in a class with
The End rather than with I Want You, whose two main sections are
musically disparate but regularly repeated.
I think You Never Give Me Your Money integrates its various sections
brilliantly and has a lot of ear appeal to boot, but I'm not sure
whether in 1969 top-40 radio was ready for a thoroughly rhapsodic
single. Songs like Good Vibrations and McArthur Park would have
prepared the way, but I don't know that anyone went all the way down
the path before Queen took Bohemian Rhapsody into the charts in 1976.
I remember thinking when I first heard the song, "Ah, those guys have
been listening to Abbey Road."
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Because
Paul fragments on side 2 "that were joined up":
Golden Slumbers
Carry That Weight
The End
Her Majesty (first added, then deleted from LP until engineer tacked it
on at end)
John fragments on side 2 "that were joined up":
Sun King
Mean Mr. Mustard
Polythene Pam
Looks rather evenly distributed to me; no "most" of Paul's songs
fragmented, etc.
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Come Together, Something, Here Comes The Sun were
stand alone songs and better single material. "Because"
was also worthy as well (a masterpeice).
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