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About the McCartney breakup
27 Oct 2006 09:33:54 -0700
rec.music.beatles
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bessie...
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Just some stray thoughts
So I recall that when Paul left Heather she was "devastated". It
seemed that all her friends were saying she could barely cope, had lost
weight, couldn't sleep etc.etc.
So my question is ..... IF (big IF) there had been any abuse wouldn't
she be more relieved than devastated????
SW...
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An abuser has low self esteem. I don't think Paul has that problem and abuse
is a pattern. Linda was certainly not putting up with any abuse. Its hoakum.
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JA**...
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Assuming the claims she made were all true for the sake of discussion,
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johnny b. love...
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Assuming the claims she made were all true for the sake of discussion,
she's not claiming daily battering and abuse like some families/women
have suffered. She's mentioned 4 incidents in 4 years. This is someone
who claims she lived on the streets at one point. So compared to the
lifestyle, I'd say no, she wouldn't have been relieved.
bessie...
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She has "claimed" she lived on the streets.
PT 141...
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LOFL! What street was that? Bond Street?
She seems to have taken up residence in Fleet Street, nowadays...
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She has money and a secure future, so that is not a realistic fear.
I meant she would be relieved to be away from someone who supposedly
was abusive.
johnny b. love...
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Not as much lifestyle and vicarious power as being "Lady McCartney"
though.
Bernie Woodham...
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Which is why she doesn't fit in to the Golddigger stereotype. Were she
really just a gold-digger, she would have been more than happy that they
were splitting.
fattuchus...
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Yes and no. I'm not saying Heather is or is not a gold digger.
However, Heather could have been sincerely upset by the split for a
number of reasons . . . love and, heartbreak on the one hand but then
again, realizing that she would be losing a lot of wealth, power and
prestige. Once Paul dumped her, the world press dumped on her, and it
must have felt pretty awful.
I know people don't want to hear it, but I believe that is why Yoko
took John back after the Lost Weekend. She realized she would not
really "make it" on her own. She tried. Yoko's records didn't sale and
her tour was a failure. Yoko learned she needed John's public love and
approval just like Heather became powerful because of Paul's love and
approval.
IMHO Yoko resented that situation deeply . . . she wanted to be known
as a genius in her own right, so she had a love/hate relationship with
John.
I think there are some clear analogies between Paul/Heather and
John/Yoko.
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bessie...
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Ah! The penney drops!
Makes perfect sense!
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Dale Houstman...
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I don't really want to get involved deeply in this tabloidish, but I
will say that - if Heather had been abused - the question of her
devastation and/or relief would still not reveal as much as you might
think about the state of her marriage. Human psychology is really quite
complex - often perverse - and even the most abused person can feel
quite devastated when their abuser ups and leaves them. Sometimes,
loneliness is worse than pain, and sometimes - if there is some abuse in
the victim's background - their very notions of what constitutes love
can be quite "off track," so they will actually miss the attention.
I'm not saying this is the case in this situation, or that any abuse at
all took place, but only that the question you raised isn't that easy to
answer without further evidence.
bessie...
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All good points, I guess it's just that is has gone from her being
"devastated" to her trashing Paul any way she can.
Dale Houstman...
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Again: human psychology is often beyond easy comprehension: ANY emotion
can turn to its opposite number under stress.
dmh
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I never have cared for Heather, her appearance in Newfoundland really
sealed the deal (no pun intended) for me. She was combative, rude and
not well informed.
Dale Houstman...
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Well - I must say I never had one opinion about her, and still don't. A
rebound relationship with no pre-nup. Even a fake TV psychic with a bad
Jamaican accent could have predicted the outcome without much effort...
chippandfish...
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