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Who plays lead guitar on You Never Give Me Your Money?
Sun, 23 Jul 2006 03:53:14 -0500
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cametrueonesweetdream...
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Who is playing the great lead guitar lines leading up to
the "One sweet dream..." section, Paul or George?
Also, was Lennon even on that cut? I don't think so, but
you know for sure.
BlackMonk...
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Paul doesn't play guitar on the cut, that's John and George. I think the
part leading up to One sweet dream is a combination of both.
donz5...
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I believe it's all George overdubbing his guitar parts. I don't believe
John is on the track.
Lewisohn (Recording Sessions, p. 176) has John "playing distorted
guitar" on the basic track (with George on "chiming electric guitar,
put through a Leslie"), recorded May 6, but bootlegs for this basic
track clearly establish only one guitar, and that's George (with Paul
on piano and Ringo on drums). No "chiming electric guitar, put through
the Leslie" yet.
BlackMonk...
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Are the bootlegs complete? Both Lewison and Tripp have John's distorted
donz5...
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The one basic track is, yes.
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guitar on the track, and they both listened to a good deal of unreleased
material. They would have been familiar with outtakes and would have known
if John wasn't on the track.
donz5...
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I've not heard of Tripp. Who's this?
happyfamily...
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That's "Fripp." Robert Fripp was a guitar player for awhile with
Kings Crimson.
Chris Jepson...
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Which is a bit like saying that Jimmy Page was a guitar player for
awhile with Led Zeppelin... :-)
Chris Jepson
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Is George identified on the tape?
donz5...
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He's not, but it's just one guitar and, to my ears, it's George;
there's a fluidity to the playing that betrays his style rather than
John's. If you'd like, I can e-mail you an .mp3 of the track so you can
hear for yourself (though it's probably somewhere online, I dunno
where).
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There definitely is some "distorted guitar" on the track. For instance, the
rhythm guitar behind the "one sweet dream" section, fits that description,
and there's more than one guitar in the prelude to that section. It sounds
like George and John trading off there and at the end of the song. Trying to
figure out who played what from their individual styles is always going to
be guesswork, but on The End, we do have a good clue as to what they both
played like at the time (though I'd say they both exaggerated their styles
on The End) and there are guitar parts that sound more like George or more
like John on the song.
Tripp has the body of work on the song being done on May 6, Paul adding his
lead vocal on the first. More vocals (including backing vocals from John
with George) and tambourine on the 15, and the bass and piano on July 31.
donz5...
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(The bootleg has the song extended for an extra few minutes, as Paul,
Ringo and George vamp over a repeated riff.)
The next day of recording for this song was July 1, but, according to
Lewisohn, it was devoted to Paul recording a lead vocal. July 15 added
"chimes" and more vocals, and July 30 still more vocal overdubs, then a
rough mix of the second side. I'm guessing that the "chimes" are
actually George's guitar overdub.
Lewisohn doesn't account for the overdubbed piano and bass, though, so
the above info shouldn't be seen as gospel. However, his Chronicles (p.
322) further specify that overdubs did occur at the initial May 6
session between 3:30 and 4 am; perhaps that's when the piano and bass
overdubs happened.
We know that John wasn't at the July 1 overdub session; he and Yoko had
suffered a car crash that day in Scotland; they returned to London on
the 6th.
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