Renting and dogs

My partner and I are planning to move to rental accomodation in a few
months, but have been looking into getting a dog. We are quite torn
over this because we would not like to put a puppy through the ordeal
of both leaving its mother and then moving to yet another strange place
so early in its life. We predict that we will be living in rental

TOTE...

Why is your only option a puppy?

Rocky...

Don't worry about that. It's not such an ordeal that the puppy
won't come around to you quickly.

TheSimplyAmazingPuppyWizard...

They AIN'T WORRIED abHOWET the puppy "comin arHOWEND
to THEM", matty. They're concerned with UPROOTIN the puppy
from a HOWES he's just got used to livin in an movin to a new
HOWES. Movin is amongst THE MOST STRESSFUL situations,
third only to death of a SP-HOWES and losing a career. You
done BOTH so you should know, eh matty <{) : ~ ( >

property for a couple of years and would like to get settled before

TheSimplyAmazingPuppyWizard...

NO PROBLEMO.

getting a pup, but worry about finding property that will allow a dog

Rocky...

That is what I'd worry about. I never felt really comfortable

TheSimplyAmazingPuppyWizard...

Perhaps you could offer to heelp DAY BOARD his dog for him, eh matty?

in a rented home with my dogs.

TheSimplyAmazingPuppyWizard...

On accHOWENT of you don't know HOWE to TRAIN your own dogs.
OtherWIZE you'd PUT YOURSELF HOWETA the ILLEGAL doggy
day care business you're runnin <{) : ~ ) >

TheSimplyAmazingPuppyWizard...

They WASN'T ASKIN abHOWET OWNIN A HOWES matty, they
was askin abHOWET MOVIN with a new puppy <{) : ~ ( >

PERHAPS you MEANT to say they should hold HOWET on
gettin a new puppy till they own their own HOWES, eh matty?

OtherWIZE, it'd SEEM like you knew MOORE than you do abHOWET
their PERSONAL FINANCIAL and CAREER PLANS which they AIN'T
MENTIONED.

What does NOT BUYIN a HOWES got to do with MOVING
with a new puppy, matty?

You're blowin smoke up HOWER arses again, AIN'T YOU
you freakin lyin dog abusing punk thug coward active acute
chronic long term incurable mental case <{) : ~ ( >

TheSimplyAmazingPuppyWizard...

Here's you an your punk thug coward active acute chronic long term
incurable mental case pals HURTIN dogs an LYIN abHOWET IT:

TheSimplyAmazingPuppyWizard...

From: Rocky (2...@rocky-dog.com)
Subject: Re: How to handle aggressive situations
Date: 2004-10-19 19:42:54 PST

Melanie L Chang said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

TheSimplyAmazingPuppyWizard...

Or, at the other end of the spectrum, Rocky cowers,
thinking I'm angry at him - a reason I don't "yuk out"
others' dogs at agility trials or training.

My suggestion is to wait the couple of years before you own a
home.

chris jung...

Well for what it's worth, we got our first collie when we were graduate
students living in an apartment. We became a two (and later three) collie
family then went on to six moves (four of them major interstate moves) in
the next 11 or so years which meant 5 rentals until we bought our first
house. We've always been able to easily find rentals - even in hot markets.
(Honest!) It helped that we made damn sure our dogs were well behaved
(always keep your neighbors happy!) and non-destructive (well at least not
destructive towards the landlords property). When we leave a rental - it's
in better shape then before we rented it. From our first landlord, we asked
for a written letter of recommendation which he was happy to give us. We
put that into a three ring binder which we called "The Collie Resume" which
also had obedience class completion certificates, photos of them being well
behaved, copies of their AKC titles, etc. We would ask later landlords for
letters of recommendation and added them in. When we would go in search of a
new rental, we would show the landlord the Collie Resume which always made
a positive impression.

Now we are the landlords (we live near Cornell University and have a two
bedroom apartment in the lower level of our house). From our experience
with three tenants groups, our best ones have been animal people. Our most
unpleasant was a lady who was immaculate, very tense and not a animal
person. (just one example of what she was like: she did loads of laundry
every day (our water usage went up 45%) but wouldn't remove lint from the
dryer lint trap because she didn't want to touch it. When we discovered
this, the accumulated lint was jammed tight in the lint trap and was pushing
the lint trap door open. We explained that accumulated lint was a fire
hazard and asked her nicely to clean the lint trap after every use (she
wouldn't) and then we said she had better clean the lint trap or we would
disable the dryer. She finally complied but made a big sulking fuss about
our unreasonable bossy attitude.). I'm sure she's not typcial of non-animal
people but it's certainly made us biased towards potential tenants with
animals. Our new tenants in June will be two vet students (1st & 3rd years)
and their dog (a mostly GSD & some lab) and we have a good feeling about
them. Heck, I'm even pretty sure they can handle the task of removing lint
from the dryer without having a hissy

So, IMHO, go ahead a get a dog (I read in a later post, your thinking of a

Rocky...

You're one of many, Chris, that has provided a good home for a
good dog under adverse circumstances. I think you're wrong
here, though.

The poster seems to want to bypass the landlord. This has
failure written all over it.

Border Terrier). Be responsible pet owners, and good tenants (here's some
key advice: take the lint out of the dryer lint trap. Can you tell the Dryer
Lint War made us frickin' crazy?).and I don't think you'll have much trouble
finding future rentals.

Chris, her smooth collies and one hairy llasa,
Pablo, Lucy and Smudge

after we move in. It is easier when the landlord can actually see the
grown behaved dog, but convincing one that we'll be responsible owners
without one seems to be very tricky.

TOTE...

Right, so why is your only option a puppy?

Any advice on our situation? Would it be overall easier to get a dog

Opinicus...

Look for landlords who are dog owners.

first and postpone moving until it is a bit older, or is there a way to
convince a landlord that we will take care of the dog well enough to be
allowed to stay. Thanks for your help :)

TOTE...

It is always risky to have a dog when you are a renter. It is even more
risky to have a puppy.

If you open your heart to an older dog you are much more likely to be able
to find a dog that is mature, and therefore more settled. People die
leaving their dogs behind. Quite often these are perfectly well mannered
dogs left to die in a shelter for no reason other than no one will adopt
them because they are not young. Look for a dog older than three, you are
much more likely to find a dog with the manners you need in your
situation.