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Puppy Won't Poop Outside
22 Jan 2006 09:53:11 -0800
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bobby Booey...
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Hey there...
I have a 4 month old Welsh Terrier who refuses to do his business
AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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HOWEsbreakin is INSTINCTIVE at four weeks. That's THE MOST
NORMAL NATURAL INNATE TERRORTORIAL IMPERATIVE of
ANY critter. There's ONLY TWO (2) reasons HOWE COME a dog
or kat will have HOWEsbreakin problems:
1=2E HE'S SICK.
OR
2=2E HE'S UNHAPPY.
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outside. I'll take him out and he'll sniff around and want to do
Janet B...
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urine? feces? both?
IHateToSayItButITOLDYOUSO...
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That's IRRELEVENT, janet.
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something after a minute or two, but instead of doing it, will
AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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You've got to stand still in WON spot where he's allHOWED
to relieve hisself and ask him to "go" and INSTANTLY PRAISE
him and give him no more than 2 minutes to do his business.
Just follow the INSTRUCTIONS in your own FREE COPY of
The Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY
INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
Method Manual <{) ; ~ ) >
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literally drag me home for an hour instead of relieving himself. Then,
AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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Sounds like he's AFRAID of relieving hisself in front of you.
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AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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Perhaps he don't NEED to "go"?
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as soon as he gets home, he'll do it every time. He is on a regular
AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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THAT'S from anXXXIHOWESNESS. He's havin a visceral
response to hie "walkies". It's VERY common here abHOWETS.
Dogs develop SERIHOWES obsessive compulsive DIS-EASES
from this sort of behavior <{) : - ( >
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AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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"SCHEDULING" disavails TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES.
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Janet B...
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Indoors I presume. Don't let him do that. Crate him or tether him to
IHateToSayItButITOLDYOUSO...
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BWEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAAAAA!!!
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IHateToSayItButITOLDYOUSO...
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BWEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHHAAA!!!
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you and no off leash or play until he eliminates in the yard.
IHateToSayItButITOLDYOUSO...
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BWEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!
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schedule where he goes out and eats at the same times every day.
AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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The Amazing Puppy Wziard NEVER "schedules" HIS dogs.
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He has a spot for him to make on newspapers, but I don't think he's
AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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Good. HOWEver, HOWER EXXXPERTS FEAR paper training
on accHOWENT of they DON'T KNOW HOWE to TRAINsition
the dog to relieving hisself HOWEtside <{) : ~ { >
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confused by the papers because 1/2 the time he doesn't bother with them
AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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Of curse not. Most pups are RAISED on papers and just
the smell of them will trigger the dog to relieve hisself.
Perhaps you should bring a couple sheets of paper HOWET
for his break and lay it DHOWEN where you want him to "go".
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and just does it where ever he happens to be standing. Plus he's been
AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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You dog IS paper trained. He's messin in your HOWES
on accHOWENT of 1. HE'S SICK or 2. HE'S UNHAPPY.
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Janet B...
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The papers are a bad idea - get rid of them.
IHateToSayItButITOLDYOUSO...
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Then his dog will mess all over the HOWES ALL of the time, janet.
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behaving like this even before we made a spot for him in the house with
AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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Your dog messes in your HOWES to get your 100%
UNDIVIDED NEGATIVE ATTENTION <{) : - ( >
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the papers. We try to give him a treat and praise the 2 times a week
AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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That's IDIOCY:
"=2E..all the highest nervous activity, as it manifests
itself in the conditional reflex, consists of a continual
change of these three fundamental processes -
- excitation, inhibition and disinhibition," Ivan P. Pavlov
"Postitive emotions arising in connection
with the perfection of a skill, irrespective
of its pragmatic significance at a given
moment, serve as the reinforcement. IOW,
emotions, not outside rewards, are what
reinforces any behavior," Ivan Pavlov.
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that he actually does do something outside, but it doesn't seem to
AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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"The IMBECILITY of some of the claims for operant
technique simply take the breath away. Lovas et al
(1966) report a standard contingent reward/punishment
procedure developing imitative speech in two severly
disturbed non verbal schizophrenic boys. After twenty-
six days the boys are reported to have been learning
new words with alacrity. HOWEver, when REWARDS were
moved to a delayed contingency the behavior and learning
immediately deteriorated."
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AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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Naaah? DO TELL? Furthermore offering and withholding
bribes and rewards can cause AGGRESSION:
Despite Skinner's clear denunciation of "negative
reinforcement" (1958) NEARLY EVER LEARNING
THEORY model involves the USE OF PUNISHMENT.
Of curse, Skinner has never to my knowledge,
demonstrated HOWE we escape the phenomenon
that an expected reward not received is experienced
as a punishment and can produce extensive and
persistent aggression (Azrin et al, 1966)
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work.
Any advice on how to make him understand it's OK to make outside?
AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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TRY THIS:
From: AIMEE (countrygirl0...@yahoo.com)
Subject: House training and such...
Date: 2003-10-08 16:18:56 PST
I've been having a problem with my dog, Axel,
relieving himself in the house while I'm away
from home.
I've used TPW method's, and yesterday I was out
for 12 hours, and Axel didn't have one single "accident".
Today, I had hoped that the results would be just as
good - and they were (I was out for 11 hours).
The problem began when, as a puppy, Axel would
relieve himself in the house and I would point at the
mess and tell him "NO" or "Bad Dog".
That made him afraid to relieve himself in the house
or infront of me.
After I got TPW's training manual, I corrected my
mishandling of these instances.
When I came home to an "accident", I would simply
drop a can near the area and ask Axel "What's that?"
Then I would clean it up - with out showing him I was
the least bit upset about the mess, and when he looked
at the spot I would tell him "Good boy, you're a good dog".
This has been an ongoing problem, and thanks to the
Puppy Wizard, we've finally got it taken care of...
Also, Axel LOVES the cat's litter box...He enjoys the
"snacks" he can find in there...I followed TPW's methods
by alternating sounds and praising him while or before
he sticks his nose in it, and today, he's been going into
the room with the cat box and barking. That's because
he's thinking about getting into the box, but he knows he
shouldn't.
Thank you, Jerry, for all you help. You've been a
blessing to all of us.
AIMEE
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
From: AIMEE (countrygirl0...@yahoo.com):
I own a black an tan coonhound. We got him
as a puppy, and due to constant mishandling
(pulling on his lead, negative corrections, and
the occasional use of a bark collar) I ended
up with a very anxious dog.
I couldn't leave him home alone, I couldn't
crate him, I couldn't even take my dog for
walks because he feared EVERYTHING.
I was going to have to get rid of him if things
didn't turn around.
My husband and I searched the internet for
answers - AND WE FOUND THE PUPPY WIZARD.
For all of you disbeliveers out there HIS METHODS WORK!
I've followed his manual, and we now have a
dog that can be left home alone, that heels
on command, that can go outside and NOT
be afraid of everything he sees.
Not only have his methods helped our dog, but
our marriage has gotten better. We had fallen
into a rut - constant bickering and tension, we
never laughed or had FUN together - but now,
with the same mindset used in THE PUPPY
WIZARDS dog training, our communications
channels have opened, and we now work
together instead of against one another.
For all the "Literalists" out there, NO WE DID
NOT TEACH EACH OTHER TO SIT, STAY,
OR HEEL.
We simply eliminated the nagging and the
acting out to get NEGATIVE attention from
one another since we weren't getting
the POSITIVE attention we wanted.
So, it's been proven - THE PUPPY WIZARDS METHODS WORK.
It's up to you to accept them. Yes, there's alot
of blame that we have to accept, but once we
realize that we've caused these problems to
arise, we can strive to make things better.
AIMEE
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Janet B...
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Structure and stick to it. He gets taken out to ONE spot. 5 minutes
IHateToSayItButITOLDYOUSO...
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He's BEEN doin that, janet. IT DOESN'T WORK, janet.
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and nothing, back in and confined for 10 minutes and try again. NO
play, NO walk, NO freedom until he produces. Hang tough - tougher
than him - he'll figure it out.
ThePuppyProphet...
MauiJNP...
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the hanging tough part was very hard for me in the beginning. When I get
ThePuppyProphet...
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INDEED? Your own dogs have AGGRESSION problems and CHRONIC INFECTIONS.
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home, I put the dogs out. Cali doesn't go potty and when she comes back in,
I can't stand the thought of crating her. I missed them and I wanted to
ThePuppyProphet...
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On accHOWENT of she'll scream whine bark an cry and your parents will
threaten to THROW YOU HOWET again you freakin dog abusing simpleton.
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ThePuppyProphet...
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OtherWIZE your dog will GO INSANE and your parents will THROW THEM
HOWET.
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play!
Anyway, Cali is at the point where she will go potty outside and she knows
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You mean anyHOWE, dog abuser.
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For CHRONIC DIAREAHAHAHAAA.
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AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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You an david NEVER had any LUCK with dogs or any other livin critters.
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AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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Cruciate ligament surgery is the #1 veterinary surgical procedure
today.
It's CAUSED BY STRESS FROM MISHANDLING just like all the other STRESS
INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASES like CHRONIC DIAREAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAAA!!!
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AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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That's probably for the BEAST as there are "TOO MANY NO KILL SHELTERS"
according to "kind2dogs" paulette nolan who runs a "RESCUE shelter"
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"Luck is for SUCKERS" The Puppy Wizard's DADDY <{); ~ ) >
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That was KINDLY of david but UNLUCKY for Lucky.
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Good for Buddy. Perhaps NHOWE he'll EXXXPIATE his
anXXXIHOWESNESS induced chronic diareah <{) ; ~ ) >
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You mean she's HYPERACTIVE and HOWETA CON-TROLL <{): ~ ( >
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So called sibling rivalry is CAUSED BY MISHANDLING.
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dog.
LIKE THAT, for EXXXAMPLE.
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imes!
Of curse. HOWEver she should PROBABLY still be on RESTRICTED activity
due to her recent knee surgery, kevin <{) : ~ ( >
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AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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You mean anyHOWE <{) : ~ ) >
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AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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HOWEsbreakin is the MOST normal natural innate instinctive
terrortorial imperative a dog kat ferrett or child has. It's
EVEN THE SAME SAME with horses and many other domestic and
wild critters, kevin <{): ~ ( >
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AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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That so? Seems it IS a PROBLEM, kevin. OtherWIZE your dog Buddy
WOULDN'T HAVE CONSTANT INTERMITTENT STRESS INDUCED diareahahahahaaa.
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AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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ask y'all
You mean the MENTAL CASES, kevin?
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Yeah. It's on accHOWENT of SHE AIN'T HAPPY, kevin.
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AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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The dog is makin a STATEMENT, kevin.
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That, and the knee surgery...
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AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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BWEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHAAA!!!
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AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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Dog trainin and the SCIENCE of BEHAVIOR AIN'T LUCK.
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AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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TRY LOOKIN HERE:
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Yeah. DECENT PEOPLE DO NOT POST HERE abHOWETS, kevin.
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Subject: Re: Puppy Won't Poop Outside
HOWEDY bobby Booey,
WELCOME To The Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY
NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method Forums. I'm Jerry Howe, The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ;
~ ) >
Here's your own FREE COPY of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100%
CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW
Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual <{) : ~ } >
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From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." To: Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:38 PM
Subject: Doggy advice
Scott, Jerry Howe forwarded me the letter below.
I'm glad that you referred negatively to Jerry's
habit of CAPITALIZING and HOWEING everything.
I personally hate this habit of his. I think it is his
way of diluting his authority - IME he is a very modest
fellow. However, contrary to your sneer, he is very
competent at living with dogs.
I thought I'd list a series of actions which I found
on the list, folk asking advice on what to do about
dogs doing this and that, for example:
whining,
humping, hunching,
pacing,
self mutilation - paw licking, side sucking,
spinning,
prolonged barking, barking at shadows,
overstimulated barking,
fighting, bullying other dogs,
compulsive digging,
compulsive scratching,
compulsive chewing,
frantic behavior,
chasing light, chasing shadow,
stealing food,
digging in garbage can,
loosing house (toilet) training.
inappropriate fearfulness
aggression.
The thing that is fascinating to me, as an ethologist who
graduated from college 50 years ago and has spent all of
the intervening time working with animals (including the
human animal), is that you never see any of these behaviors
in wild dingoes, jackals, coyotes or wolves, you don't even
see these behaviors in hyenas (who aren't dog related).
You see these behaviors in human managed animals, especially
animals who live with neurotic hysterical humans.
As Sam Corson (Pavlov's last student) demonstrated for
nearly 50 years at Ohio University (Oxford, O.) there
is no treatment more useful for dogs than tender loving
care.
George von Hilsheimer, Ph. D., F. R. S. H., Diplomate,
Academy of Behavioral Medicine
From: Animal Behavior Forensic Sciences Research Laboratory
Date: 22 Jan 2006 10:43:43 -0800
Subject: Re: Puppy Won't Poop Outside
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AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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HOWEsbreakin is INSTINCTIVE at four weeks. That's THE MOST
NORMAL NATURAL INNATE TERRORTORIAL IMPERATIVE of
ANY critter. There's ONLY TWO (2) reasons HOWE COME a dog
or kat will have HOWEsbreakin problems:
1=2E HE'S SICK.
OR
2=2E HE'S UNHAPPY.
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AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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You've got to stand still in WON spot where he's allHOWED
to relieve hisself and ask him to "go" and INSTANTLY PRAISE
him and give him no more than 2 minutes to do his business.
Just follow the INSTRUCTIONS in your own FREE COPY of
The Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY
INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
Method Manual <{) ; ~ ) >
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AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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Sounds like he's AFRAID of relieving hisself in front of you.
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AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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Perhaps he don't NEED to "go"?
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AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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THAT'S from anXXXIHOWESNESS. He's havin a visceral
response to hie "walkies". It's VERY common here abHOWETS.
Dogs develop SERIHOWES obsessive compulsive DIS-EASES
from this sort of behavior <{) : - ( >
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AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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"SCHEDULING" disavails TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES.
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AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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The Amazing Puppy Wziard NEVER "schedules" HIS dogs.
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AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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Good. HOWEver, HOWER EXXXPERTS FEAR paper training
on accHOWENT of they DON'T KNOW HOWE to TRAINsition
the dog to relieving hisself HOWEtside <{) : ~ { >
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AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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Of curse not. Most pups are RAISED on papers and just
the smell of them will trigger the dog to relieve hisself.
Perhaps you should bring a couple sheets of paper HOWET
for his break and lay it DHOWEN where you want him to "go".
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AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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You dog IS paper trained. He's messin in your HOWES
on accHOWENT of 1. HE'S SICK or 2. HE'S UNHAPPY.
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AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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Your dog messes in your HOWES to get your 100%
UNDIVIDED NEGATIVE ATTENTION <{) : - ( >
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AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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That's IDIOCY:
"=2E..all the highest nervous activity, as it manifests
itself in the conditional reflex, consists of a continual
change of these three fundamental processes -
- excitation, inhibition and disinhibition," Ivan P. Pavlov
"Postitive emotions arising in connection
with the perfection of a skill, irrespective
of its pragmatic significance at a given
moment, serve as the reinforcement. IOW,
emotions, not outside rewards, are what
reinforces any behavior," Ivan Pavlov.
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AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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"The IMBECILITY of some of the claims for operant
technique simply take the breath away. Lovas et al
(1966) report a standard contingent reward/punishment
procedure developing imitative speech in two severly
disturbed non verbal schizophrenic boys. After twenty-
six days the boys are reported to have been learning
new words with alacrity. HOWEver, when REWARDS were
moved to a delayed contingency the behavior and learning
immediately deteriorated."
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AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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Naaah? DO TELL? Furthermore offering and withholding
bribes and rewards can cause AGGRESSION:
Despite Skinner's clear denunciation of "negative
reinforcement" (1958) NEARLY EVER LEARNING
THEORY model involves the USE OF PUNISHMENT.
Of curse, Skinner has never to my knowledge,
demonstrated HOWE we escape the phenomenon
that an expected reward not received is experienced
as a punishment and can produce extensive and
persistent aggression (Azrin et al, 1966)
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AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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TRY THIS:
From: AIMEE (countrygirl0...@yahoo.com)
Subject: House training and such...
Date: 2003-10-08 16:18:56 PST
I've been having a problem with my dog, Axel,
relieving himself in the house while I'm away
from home.
I've used TPW method's, and yesterday I was out
for 12 hours, and Axel didn't have one single "accident".
Today, I had hoped that the results would be just as
good - and they were (I was out for 11 hours).
The problem began when, as a puppy, Axel would
relieve himself in the house and I would point at the
mess and tell him "NO" or "Bad Dog".
That made him afraid to relieve himself in the house
or infront of me.
After I got TPW's training manual, I corrected my
mishandling of these instances.
When I came home to an "accident", I would simply
drop a can near the area and ask Axel "What's that?"
Then I would clean it up - with out showing him I was
the least bit upset about the mess, and when he looked
at the spot I would tell him "Good boy, you're a good dog".
This has been an ongoing problem, and thanks to the
Puppy Wizard, we've finally got it taken care of...
Also, Axel LOVES the cat's litter box...He enjoys the
"snacks" he can find in there...I followed TPW's methods
by alternating sounds and praising him while or before
he sticks his nose in it, and today, he's been going into
the room with the cat box and barking. That's because
he's thinking about getting into the box, but he knows he
shouldn't.
Thank you, Jerry, for all you help. You've been a
blessing to all of us.
AIMEE
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
From: AIMEE (countrygirl0...@yahoo.com):
I own a black an tan coonhound. We got him
as a puppy, and due to constant mishandling
(pulling on his lead, negative corrections, and
the occasional use of a bark collar) I ended
up with a very anxious dog.
I couldn't leave him home alone, I couldn't
crate him, I couldn't even take my dog for
walks because he feared EVERYTHING.
I was going to have to get rid of him if things
didn't turn around.
My husband and I searched the internet for
answers - AND WE FOUND THE PUPPY WIZARD.
For all of you disbeliveers out there HIS METHODS WORK!
I've followed his manual, and we now have a
dog that can be left home alone, that heels
on command, that can go outside and NOT
be afraid of everything he sees.
Not only have his methods helped our dog, but
our marriage has gotten better. We had fallen
into a rut - constant bickering and tension, we
never laughed or had FUN together - but now,
with the same mindset used in THE PUPPY
WIZARDS dog training, our communications
channels have opened, and we now work
together instead of against one another.
For all the "Literalists" out there, NO WE DID
NOT TEACH EACH OTHER TO SIT, STAY,
OR HEEL.
We simply eliminated the nagging and the
acting out to get NEGATIVE attention from
one another since we weren't getting
the POSITIVE attention we wanted.
So, it's been proven - THE PUPPY WIZARDS METHODS WORK.
It's up to you to accept them. Yes, there's alot
of blame that we have to accept, but once we
realize that we've caused these problems to
arise, we can strive to make things better.
AIMEE
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ThePuppyProphet...
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You mean anyHOWE you impudent dog abusing mental case.
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she should (I base this on her barking at the door right at the time she has
ThePuppyProphet...
to pee) but she won't go if she's tied. If I let her out running free, she
ThePuppyProphet...
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THAT'S on accHOWENT of SHE'S AFRAID of bein jerked and choked somemore.
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will pee and poop no problems but if I tie her out, she refuses to potty.
ThePuppyProphet...
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On accHOWENT of SHE'S AFRAID of BEING JERKED an CHOKED somemore.
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The reason I must tie her though, is so she doesn't wander too far away
ThePuppyProphet...
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You mean RUN HOWET on her ABUSER.
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(which she didn't use to do). Now I am stuck and not sure what to do with
ThePuppyProphet...
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When she was TOO YOUNG to RUN HOWET on her ABUSER.
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ThePuppyProphet...
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You mean on accHOWENT of she'll RUN HOWET on you, dog abuser.
BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!
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her, tie her & wait out the refusal to go potty (reverting back to crating
ThePuppyProphet...
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BWEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!
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ThePuppyProphet...
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Then she'll scream bark whine and cry somemore and your
abusive parents will THROW YOU HOWET <{) ; ~ ) >
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again when inside) or figure out another solution.
ThePuppyProphet...
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You MIGHT wanna learn HOWE to TRAIN your dogs mauijnp:
From: Momi...@webtv.net (misty)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 09:29:09 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: Jerry, why non-physical praise?
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ThePuppyProphet...
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Never had a chance to try them on her... I was still
using the e-fence and chains to keep her in the yard.
The suggestions I received here to keep Peach home were:
build a fence... wasn't going to happen.. we plan on putting
a modular home here within the next few years... put more
fence at the top of the pen I used so both dogs could play
bitey face w/o tangling, and similar suggestions.
Jerry was the only one to mention border training... but he
was kook supreme ;-P So I ignored him... no killfiles with
webtv.. at that time Jerry had his own troll, somewhat like
Candace, so the group was not very conducive to learning anything.
At one point I even b*tched about Jerry.
By the time I tried out Jerry's manual Peach had already ran away.
Not very good at the google groups search but you'll find my
first post at "runaway dog message 30" within that thread is
mention of the dogs taking off and being gone for 2 days. I
stopped posting for a bit... my middle boy was devastated that
his dog was gone... Zelda came home but not her mom.
The next few posts from me were ones about/to Jerry.
Then Jerry made the WETM accessible for webbes, I put it
in my e-mail (no storage otherwise on webby unless you put
stuff on a webpage) and read it, read it and read it.
Once I understood what the concept was, I implemented it
on Zelda. It worked and I now have a great housedog!
I only regret that my own distrust of Jerry caused me to lose
another wonderful dog. Peach was an absolute gem with little
kids. I and my boys still miss her. Sometimes I still look
to see if she came home when we get back from trips. Maybe
Peach would still have ran away... I don't know and never will....
~misty
From: "Jerry Howe"
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 15:16:59 -0500
Subject: Re: Jerry, why non-physical praise?
Peach would be there sittin pretty had our pals not given you a bum
steer cause they're EMBARRASSED and AFRAID of losing their careers
and reputations.... Jerry.
Stick around, we're just startin to have FUN learning and
sharing...J;~)
16990-3CAB1F8...@storefull-2293.public.lawson.webtv.net...
I don't now whether Peach is dead or alive. I do know she's
not here with us. I really can't blame anyone here for her
loss.
I'm the one who ignored your advice. I did it because of how
you write/wrote. I was unwilling to accept the idea that my
using a shock collar could have any bearing on Peach not
wanting to stay home.
Up until I started using it my main concern had been keeping
my dogs in their own yard.
Once I started using the e-fence... well, then my concern
became how to keep them from running off for days on end.
I lost valuable training time becoming embroiled in the
anti-shock debate and the "Jerry sux" tirades.
I lost one dog but I have the bestest dog in the world now
A Wits End Trained dog, one who is completely housetrained,
doesn't chew up stuff, stays in the yard, and doesn't bark all
the time.
IOW a great companion and friend.
Thanks Jerry!
AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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HOWEDY unsurreality you anonymHOWES lying dog
abusing punk thug animal and child abusing mental case,
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AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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You'll notice that MrE is likeWIZE a anonymHOWES lying coward like
yourself <{) ; ~ ) >
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You mean the MENTAL CASES who jerk choke shock intimidate bribe
and lock their dogs in boxes to avoid behaviors of the cunning domestic
puppy dog they AIN'T got the INTELLECT to HOWEtwit <{) ; ~ ) >
"BethF"
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AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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"Whatever Motivates The Dog, But I Daresay Most
Of The Dogs I Have In Classes Just Aren't That
Interested In Praise."
Maybe that's what we should do - hold back the dobie
girl so that Izzy can put Simon in his place.
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AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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HOWEDY unsurreality you anonymHOWES lying dog
abusing punk thug animal and child abusing mental case,
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AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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You'll notice that MrE is likeWIZE a anonymHOWES lying coward like
yourself <{) ; ~ ) >
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AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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You mean the MENTAL CASES who jerk choke shock intimidate bribe
and lock their dogs in boxes to avoid behaviors of the cunning domestic
puppy dog they AIN'T got the INTELLECT to HOWEtwit <{) ; ~ ) >
"BethF"
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AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory...
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"Whatever Motivates The Dog, But I Daresay Most
Of The Dogs I Have In Classes Just Aren't That
Interested In Praise."
Maybe that's what we should do - hold back the dobie
girl so that Izzy can put Simon in his place.
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We just installed a PetSafe brand fence this Spring. Two
dogs, two collars We now have one dog and no collars.
Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence, not want to come
back in the yard and would run for days.
The last time, Peach didn't come back home.
I used the Wit's End Training Manual to learn how to train
my dog. She is now border trained. A few minutes each day
reinforces her desire to stay in the yard.
She no longer runs out into the road, I can stop her from
chasing cats and she no longer cringes when we walk
around the yard.
I can not say loud or long enough how much I hate the
e-fence and its collars. If you can't get a regular fence
then you need to train your dog.
I will never rely on an electronic collar to keep my dog in
our yard again.
The price was too high:-( ~misty
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IHateToSayItButITOLDYOUSO...
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You mean just KEEP DOIN what DOESN'T WORK, janet?
THAT'S HOWE COME your own dog is DYIN from STRESS
INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE aka The Puppy Wizard's
Syndrome <{) : ~ ( >
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IHateToSayItButITOLDYOUSO...
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From: Animal Behavior Forensic Sciences Research Laboratory
Date: 3 Dec 2005 08:16:13 -0800
Subject: Re: Urinating at night
From: "Deltones"
Date: 2 Dec 2005 10:55:41 -0800
Subject: Re: In defense of Jerry Howe's methods
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IHateToSayItButITOLDYOUSO...
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That's 2 in 2 as far as I'm concerned but hey, if you insist. I'm
really curious to see what will be the justification this time. So far
we have:
Limited choking? Hey, it's limited, As Neo would say: Woah,
there is no choke.
Dogs pumped full of prozac? Hey, they're trippin man.
Remember Woodstock. Euh.... Woodwhat?
E-Collar? I'm sure some of you will come up with: But my
dog look so pretty with an electrified perm. Swoooon.
So on with the fun. Taken from the "Collars" thread, started
by Perry Templeton June 20 2005
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