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Correctional Collars
23 Aug 2006 11:38:58 -0700
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Mirelle...
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I submit that the term 'choke chain' be changed to Correctional Collar.
A_Poor_Uneducated_Backyard_ShadeTree_S-it_Kickin_Dog_Trainer...
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You mean like the kat O nine tails, mirelle?
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When used properly it does not choke the dog. Dogs pull harder on a
A_Poor_Uneducated_Backyard_ShadeTree_S-it_Kickin_Dog_Trainer...
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Of curse not. We'll have you demonstrate the technique on
your judge and jury in your felony animal abuse trial, eh mirelle?
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flat collar then a Correctional Collar
A_Poor_Uneducated_Backyard_ShadeTree_S-it_Kickin_Dog_Trainer...
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That's irrelevent. Dogs shouldn't be pulled at all, mirelle. Pullin
on dog's collars BREAKS THEIR doGdameneD necks, mirelle.
They call it WOBLER'S Syndrome or Spondlosis or IVDD.
Pullin on dogs makes them AFRAID and AGGRESSIVE and
MAKES THEM PHYSICALLY ILL, including collapsed tracheas
and other DIS-EASES like SEIZURES and OBSESSIVE COMPULSIVE
DISORDERS and stuff you never even heard of, and inhibits
learning and memory recall, and teaches fear and mistrust, mirelle.
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when used correctly. The Correctional Collar must be in the P formation
A_Poor_Uneducated_Backyard_ShadeTree_S-it_Kickin_Dog_Trainer...
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There AIN'T NO apupriate way to CHOKE a dog, mirelle.
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not the Q formation. The Q formation will choke the dog.
A_Poor_Uneducated_Backyard_ShadeTree_S-it_Kickin_Dog_Trainer...
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You mean so it won't BIND when you jerk an choke IT, mirelle.
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A_Poor_Uneducated_Backyard_ShadeTree_S-it_Kickin_Dog_Trainer...
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UNLESS the dog is heelin on the RIGHT side, mirelle. You gotta
realize we go lefties an righties, eh mirelle <{} : ~ ) >
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The motion must be mild with a quick snap and release. This way it only
touches the skin of the dog and the sound of the chain moving is the
largest factor in the training to heel. As dogs are sensitive to sound.
A_Poor_Uneducated_Backyard_ShadeTree_S-it_Kickin_Dog_Trainer...
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That so, mirelle? Can you tell us HOWE this mechanism WORKS, mirelle?
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There must only be a mild snap and a quick release for it to be
effective. The leash needs to be held correctly for this to work. It
must be loose at all times while the dog is heeling. Only when there is
a correction must the leash be taught for less then a second. Then
A_Poor_Uneducated_Backyard_ShadeTree_S-it_Kickin_Dog_Trainer...
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OtherWIZE you'll trigger positive thigmotaxis, eh mirelle <{} ; ~ ) >
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praise when the dog heels.
A_Poor_Uneducated_Backyard_ShadeTree_S-it_Kickin_Dog_Trainer...
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You mean AFTER the fact, mirelle?
You can't PRAISE a behavior the dog AIN'T THINKIN OF DOIN, mirelle.
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the term 'choke chain' is outdated as it gives the wrong impression
that it chokes the dog. And of course it does when not put on
A_Poor_Uneducated_Backyard_ShadeTree_S-it_Kickin_Dog_Trainer...
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You mean when you jerk on it to make the dog want to follow you
anywhere, mirelle?
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correctly, or the the person using the method is using it improperly.
A_Poor_Uneducated_Backyard_ShadeTree_S-it_Kickin_Dog_Trainer...
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You mean like HOWE the dog whisperer does it, mirelle?
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So this is why I submit a new name for the name 'choke chain'.
Correctional collar or Slip collar.
A_Poor_Uneducated_Backyard_ShadeTree_S-it_Kickin_Dog_Trainer...
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And THAT'S HOWE COME you've been submitted for the
OFFICIAL Gang Of Pathetic Misterable Stinkin Lyin Dog
Abusing Punk Thug Cowards And Active Acute Chronic
Long Term Incurable Mental Cases Who HURT INTIMIDATE
an MURDER innocent defenseless dumb critters an LIE
abHOWET IT list, mirelle <{} : ~ ) >
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Someone beat you to the idea long ago and started calling them
training collars.
Mirelle...
A_Poor_Uneducated_Backyard_ShadeTree_S-it_Kickin_Dog_Trainer...
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CONGRADULATIONS, mirelle!
Say HOWEDY to your newfHOWEND punk thug coward
active acute chronic long term incurable mental case pals:
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I am aware of that. Where do you think I came up with the idea.
Unfortunately, the idea never took !
So I am re-submitting it in order to bring attention to information
A_Poor_Uneducated_Backyard_ShadeTree_S-it_Kickin_Dog_Trainer...
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From: Rocky (2...@rocky-dog.com)
Subject: Re: How to handle aggressive situations
Date: 2004-10-19 19:42:54 PST
Melanie L Chang said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
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A_Poor_Uneducated_Backyard_ShadeTree_S-it_Kickin_Dog_Trainer...
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Or, at the other end of the spectrum, Rocky cowers,
thinking I'm angry at him - a reason I don't "yuk out"
others' dogs at agility trials or training.
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most people still do not know amongst the general public.
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Personally, I'm a fan of the pinch collars. They can't choke the dog
without blatant and unreal misuse, and give a correction that any
puppy that's been nipped by its mother will understand in short
order.
Mirelle...
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I disagree. Pinch collars are used when the Correctional Collar was not
used correctly.
A person using a pinch collar is not the mother dog so the transference
is not there.
A dog knows it's own. We are humans, they are dogs.
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