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Need advice/help dog is crazy
15 Mar 2006 08:30:18 -0800
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Ant...
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So in our family is a 11/12yr mutt with coyote mixed in. The dog has a
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You mean, a good family who've mishandled
and made their dog aggressive. What kinda
GOOD FAMILY raises nasty family members?
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history of biting/fear aggression, which seems to be getting worse.
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ALL AGGRESSION IS FEAR. ALL FEAR IS CAUSED BY MISHANDLING.
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Naaah? DO TELL??? ANY behavior that's IGNORED AVOIDED
or REPRESSED will only GET WORSE or CHANGE to other
seemingly non related behaviors as anXXXIHOWESNESS
relief mechanisms or TRAINsfer behaviors <{); ~ ) >
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The dog gets really fearful of the wind outside. The other night he
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NO PROBLEMO. You can EXXXTINGUISH ALL FEAR by simply PRAISING him.
LIKE THIS:
"Dan Moore"
Tracy,
What worked for me, in just one storm,
was to praise the dog after each clap
of thunder, telling him he's a Good Dog!
This is an almost 13 year old Doberman, BTW.
The next time it thundered, he did not even
react at all--you could not tell it was the same
dog as before.
There was more thunder just the other day,
and same thing, nada, nothing, zilch, no
cowering, whimpering, trying to hide at all,
it was that simple.
I got this idea from Jerry Howe, who might seem
to be a "wild and crazy" character, but his non-
abusive way of handling dogs WORKS.
Wonderfully.
Praise.
It's that simple.
Juanita
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AND LIKE THIS:
From: Chris Williams (k9ap...@webtv.net)
Subject: Re: Thank you Jerry Howe
Date: 2002-03-26 08:16:19 PST
Engrossing account, Anthony. Our best to Angel
and your family.
A friend, who socializes the kittens I've taken
from a feral cat colony, is using the DDR.
She reports far fewer panic problems than
she's had before.
"The FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual
I do find valuable. Much of it I recognize as what
I've always done without thinking of it as "training".
New stuff, I've used. His anchoring technique erased
the last of Mac's fireworks trauma,"
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AND LIKE THIS 12 YEAR OLD DOG:
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:04:50 -0700
Subject: Puppy Wizard - Report, Day Two
Success!
I left for about 25 minutes, and when I returned
and walked thru the front door - no dog standing
there waiting for me! No barking, no whimpering -
no anything.
In fact, no dog!
I got worried, looking all over for her. I found
her asleep (yes, asleep!!!!) on a pile of clothing
that was on the floor in my second bedroom.
I left a tape recorder running while I was gone, but,
without realizing it, I had it set to Voice Activation -
and it hadn't been activated! I don't think she made a
sound while I was gone.
I almost feel ready to give it a big test - leave her
at home while I go to a movie, which I haven't been
able to do since I got her a little over one year ago.
Both times I employed your technique over the last couple
of days, I did so at night. Just because I need to satisfy
myself that this is real, I'm going to leave during the day
for awhile. I know you'll say it won't make any difference,
but gotta do it, gotta test it, gotta assure myself that this
is real.
Robin
Just wanted to let you know that the surrogate toy
technique is working wonders. I have not had a shredded
sheet for over a week now. Robin.
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began showing the same signs after hearing the smoke detector beep from
a low battery. The dog starts to shake/tremble, drool, pant. He does
everything possible to try to get close to us. It's scary.
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"IT'S SCARY" on accHOWENT of you're AFRAID of him.
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In the past the dog has bit both of us (wife and I)and a few friends,
ranging from nips to stiches. We have experimented with some
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You mean you've jerked choked bribed crated and
intimidate him. Have you tried a nice shock collar?
DOGS LOVE THAT.
LIKE THIS:
"Loop the lead (it's basically a GIANT nylon or leather
choke collar) over his snarly little head, and give him a
stern correction" --Janet Boss
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trainings. The behaivor always comes back.
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The dog was the only dog for years. Three years ago we got a second
dog which seemed to improve his behaivor in some ways. He seemed less
depressed became more playful and just seemed happier. They get along
really well, and play well together. No problems there.
We have an infant that is three months old now and we are getting
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A DOG Is A Dog;
As A KAT Is A KAT;
As A BIRDY Is A BIRDY;
As A CHILD IS A CHILD;
As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES
As A Mass Murderer Is A Mass Murderer.
ALL Critters Only Respond In
PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL
INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways;
To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment
Which We Create For Them.
In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
FAILURE MEANS DEATH.
SAME SAME SAME SAME,
For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.
You GET The Critter You TRAINED
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really concerned over this dog's behaivor. I really don't think the
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No. You mean you're AFRAID of your dog on accHOWENT
of you've been TAUGHT to ABUSE him by DOG LOVERS
like the EXXXPERTS you're askin here abHOWETS:
"Granted That The Dog Who Fears Retribution Will
Adore His Owner," lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn.
lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:
For barking in the crate - leave the leash on and
pass it through the crate door. Attach a line to
it. When he barks, use the line for a correction.-
if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar," Lynn K.
"Training is not confrontation,"Lynn K.
"Unfortunately, some confrontation is necessary,
just to be able to handle the dogs. For example,
we need to crate train a dog immediately because
they are usually in need of medical care and they
are in foster homes with other dogs. It's a safety
necessity," lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn.
"Training is not confrontation,"Lynn K.
"So what? Whoever said that it's right to
always not confront? We sure can try, but
a dog who knows a command and growls when
given it is certainly being confrontational".
You can't simply walk away and pretend it
didn't happen or leave it for later work in
every situation." Lynn K.
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"I used to work the Kill Room as a volunteer in
one shelter.) But their ability to set their own
schedules and duties causes a great deal of
scheduling overhead.
And it takes effort and thought to ensure that
volunteers get the meaningful experience that
they work for.
Someone has to be responsible for that
Volunteer Program, and it is best done
by a non-volunteer."
Lynn K.
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dog has issues with the new addition to the family. This behaivor was
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Dogs, even humans, often have maternal / paternal INSTINCT.
Ever hear of Romulus an Remus or the modern studies
of orphaned human children raised by critters???
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present before the child. I read Michael Wombacher's book "There's a
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That's IRRELEVENT. ALL temperament and behavior
problems are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING therefore
CAN BE CURED NEARLY INSTANTLY simply by DOIN
EVERY THING EXXXACTLY PRECISELY OPPOSITE of
HOWE you been taught <{); ~ ) >
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Baby in the House" which was a great book. We have the dominance
order in the house well established and the dog follows commands really
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BWEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAA!!!
THAT'S HOWE COME YOUR OWN DOG ATTACKS YOU,
you freakin ignoramHOWES <{); ~ ) >
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THAT'S on accHOWENT of YOUR DOG FEARS YOU HURTIN HIM.
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well, until he gets crazy then he doesn't listen. It makes me think he
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THAT'S on accHOWENT of YOU HURT YOUR DOG.
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Naaaah... you AIN'T gettin away with BLAMIN THE DOG
for being MENTAL when you've been TAUGHT HOWE to
ABUSE your dog and child by MENTAL CASES like these:
"After Numerous Training Classes, Behavioral
Consultations, And Hundreds Of Dollars In Vet
Bills, I Killed My Dalmatian Several Years Ago
Due To Extreme Dog-Aggressiveness," mustang sally.
"I'll bet you don't know a thing about me.
I volunteered as assistant to the euthanasia
tech at our local shelter for a while, and
I know a bit about overpopulation and unwanted
animals.
This however has nothing at all to do with
responsible breeders, because responsible
breeders don't contribute to that problem,"
Mustang Sally.
I'll be you've never had to put down litters of
beautiful labrador puppies? If you had did, maybe
you'd be singing a different tune?
"Actually, have held them for the tech to euth, and
put their bodies in the trash bag and in the freezer
for the trash company to come and dispose of.
No different tune," ~Emily
"I worked with one shelter where I bathed and groomed
every adoptable dog on intake. I frankly felt that the
effort/benefit equation was not balanced for some of the
older/ill poodle/terrier mixes we got in badly matted condition.
Should I have refused to groom them?
Or even more pertinent - I was one of the people who
had to make the euthanasia decisions at that shelter."
Lynn K.
"You Lying Sack Of Dung.When Have I Ever Said
Anything About Using A Prong Collar, Or Any Collar
Correction At All, To Make Dogs Friendly To House
Cats? Don't bother. The answer is never," lying "I
LOVE KOEHLER" lynn.
lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn writes about kats and dogs:
"This Article Is Something We've Put Together
For SF GSD Rescue
From: Lynn Kosmakos (lkosma...@home.com)
Subject: Re: I have a dog he has cats
Date: 1999/11/20
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Okay - this is going to be a bit loooong - Lynn K.
"Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the dog. Don't
forget to put the muzzle on the dog. I think a prong works
better than a choke with less chance of injury to the dog in
this situation.
Electronics can be used to create an aversion to cats, but
should be used under the direction of a trainer who knows how
to instruct the owner in their proper use. Electronics can
take the form of shock, sonic or citronella collars. At that
time the owner will train with electronics instead of food or
whatever other reward system was being used."
8) Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the dog.
Don't forget to put the muzzle on the dog. I think a prong
works better than a choke with less chance of injury to the
dog in this situation. Have the dog in a sit-stay next to
you with most of the slack out of the leash and let the cat
walk through the room and up to the dog if it wishes (this is
why you have the dog muzzled).
If the dog makes an aggressive move towards the
cat, it must be corrected strongly with both your
voice and the collar.
This is important - the correction must be physically
very strong - not a nag. (PS: not many dogs need
to be corrected at all)."
"I used to work the Kill Room as a volunteer in
one shelter.) But their ability to set their own
schedules and duties causes a great deal of
scheduling overhead.
And it takes effort and thought to ensure that
volunteers get the meaningful experience that
they work for.
Someone has to be responsible for that
Volunteer Program, and it is best done
by a non-volunteer."
Lynn K.
Lynn, looks like he got you there if these
quotes are true.
In the posts below you take responsibility for
making those calls.
In your post above, you state you do not
make those calls.
Which one is it?
WORDS OF WISDOM
From Our Own Lynn Kosmakos
1200mg Of Lithium And 50 mg Of Zoloft
EVERY DAY
For Twenty Years
I THINK I'M QUALIFIED TO TALK ABOUT LITHIUM
"I, too, have a bi-polar mood disorder (manic-
depression) requiring 1200mg of lithium and 50
mg of Zoloft every day.
I, also, care about dogs and use this forum to
learn more, while happily sharing pertinent
information I have learned. But if I were ever
to post such sh*t, I would hope that every other
reader of this group would be rightfully outraged."
"Community is an evolutionary thing that we
earn the right to participate in by observing
the easily understood rules and contributing
to in constructive ways."
Lynn K.
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is mental. We try to keep him out of the bedroom when he starts
getting like this. NoWay are we going to put our child in danger...
This usually seems to make matters worse.
This weekend I was outside with him in our backyard trying to play ball
with him to get him in a good mood, because he was starting to show the
signs of crazyness. As I was going back in the house he bit my leg and
broke the skin through my jeans.
We are very animal friendly vegan and vegetarians and would have never
thought of putting an animal down. . .until now. Is there an
alternative in this situation? We called the local shelters, they will
not take a dog that bites or has fear aggression. We really don't want
shore...
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Rescues and shelters won't take known biters. Or rather,
those that will take known biters (for example, some
municipalities have shelters that are required to accept all
owner surrenders) will put them down immediately.
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anyone else to get hurt.
shore...
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Well, your dog doesn't know that biting isn't okay. Until
he learns that (and at 12 years old it's probably too late
to solve the problem for good) you've got a problem.
I think it might be worth having him evaluated for cognitive
dysfunction (doggy Alzheimers) based on recent behavioral
changes, but while it's treatable the treatment takes awhile
to kick in and it tends not to last the lifetime of the
dog. Still, if you're going to have to put the dog down
you'll need to talk to your vet anyway, and it may be worth
raising the question.
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Suggestions are more than welcome.
flick...
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I'll second Ms. Shore's comment on age-related cognitive problems.
Take the dog to the vet. One of mine would startle more easily with age as
her eyesight began to go, and sometimes she would nip.
flick 100785
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diddy...
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Send the kid back. It was irresponsible of you to even think of having a
child when you had a known danger in the house. The dog is part WILD
ANIMAL. COYOTES are known to be unpredictable. Being fearful is an
instinctive survival behavior.
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