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Training two at once



24 Jun 2006 10:18:27 -0700 rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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BlueMoon...


TaraG...
Crystal, another night passes, and still no reply. I also wrote another post
addressed to you last night. In it I included a few links to actual
discussions.

Did you at least read them?

I'm really amazed. You say you want people in this newsgroup to actually
discuss methods and to give jerry the benefit of the doubt, but you
completely ignore an honest dialogue on the topic. I'm really
surprised.....and disappointed

starrkssd...
I responded to you last night, tara.
How many posts do you have that you are waiting on me to reply to?

TaraG...
I had written this a few hours before your reply came through. The message
of mine, above, was posted earlier last night.


TaraG...
Don't worry about it. You've chosen to ignore my point entirely.
To each his own.

sorry if I missed one.

TaraG...
No apologies necessary. I had put a lot of thought and effort into pointing
out misinformation and fallacies. I had hoped that you would spend at least
that much time looking into it for yourself without assuming that what jerry
posts is actually how conversations went. In a conversation, context is
sometimes *everything*. That's a big one that jerry likes to change in order
to change meanings. You choose to take his word for it. So be it. Keep in
mind though: you choose to remain an apologist for abusive behavior. You'd
like to say that its because of his humane methods, but you can't separate
someone's abuse from other aspects of their behavior, no matter how much
you'd like to think you can. Isn't that what jerry's been trying to convince
you of about everyone else?

I could care less about his methods, and I've frankly never even been one to
even bash them. They are one way, among many, of potentially humanely and
successfully training a dog to varying degrees. The fact that more ways then
his exists is, I think, a great thing (and he thinks is a horrible thing).
However, I do care....quite a lot....that he is incredibly abusive (not
"rude", not "impolite", not "obnoxious"....ABUSIVE) to those here. Abusive
in a way that if you or showdogbarks were EVER subjected to, you would
likely freak out completely. But as long as its someone else being abused,
then I guess that makes it alright. That's what your behavior says, even if
your intentions are otherwise.

So, no. No need for further replies. Good luck anyway.

Crystal
I've just downloaded the Wit's End training manual and have been
reading thru the first sections. I have a question. Seven days ago we
became the owner of 2 14-week old puppies (sisters, Lab/German Shepard
mix). Would these training methods work best if the dogs are separated
for training or should we try these techniques with both of them at the
same time?
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