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Most Brits Are Actually Spanish
Sat, 21 Oct 2006 19:10:07 +0100
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D. Spencer Hines...
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Deeeeeelightful!
And:
Hilarious!
Michael W Cook...
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You are, Hines.
And as usual quoting news that is weeks out of date.
This appeared in the Independent at least six weeks ago.
boseley...
But I wonder where Hines believed we all lived 10,000 years ago when there
were sixty metre ice sheets as far south as Birmingham ?
And much of Northern Europe was an arctic wasteland ?
The Watford Gap ?
Hines needs to do a bit of basic work on his archaeology and geography me
thinks - Basic school kid stuff really.
Nothing changes I see.
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This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.
William Black...
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We don't anymore.
Our best footballers play in their sides and we go there for our holidays.
I know this is going to hurt, but, unlike the USA, the UK has changed
tremendously in the past few decades.
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Ken Wood...
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What about all those Vikings and Normans (Vikings once removed)? Hows
'bout the Romans, and the occassional monkey rescued from a piece of
driftwood?
KW
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jgh...
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If you live in Britain and make Britain your home, you're British.
Renia...
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No, to be British you have to be naturalised or born there.
a.spencer3...
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Or born Brit overseas, of course.
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Anyway, I'm Scandinavian by ancecstry.
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Larry Swain...
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Well, that's odd, since the article says that the British descend from
CELTIC peoples from Spain, and so not LATIN peoples, but CELTS. But so
Tiglath...
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Can't you read?
The article says that Brits descend from migrating IBERIANS of 4,000 BC, NOT
CELTS. Celts arrived in Spain 3,000 years later.
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what?
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But it won't...
Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.
jacklinthicum...
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Especially those feeble fools who try to link their heritage to the
so-called aristocracy of that Spanish colony.
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Tiglath...
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Yep, we sent the riff-raff to the cold room.
And I bet that swarthy Little Willie borrowed his entire Y chromosome
from peoples in the Iberian Peninsula.
William Black is a closet garlic-eater.
A Little Dick Spick.
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Tiglath...
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Leaving large genetic footprints is a lot of fun.
Iberians have always understood that and led by example.
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Tiglath...
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And the pretty ones got a fresh load of genetic material to be sure.
Renia, Celia come to papa.
Renia...
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Hm, now that we're related? Anyway, we're about the same age, so you're
probably my couz, not my papa.
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The Highlander...
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It also puts paid to your nonsenical claim to be related to the
Marquis of Montrose, doesn't it? I'm related to that family but a
J Antero...
swift check through my family tree shows no one remotely like you
connected to me. The ludicrous presumption that I could be related so
some claim-jumping Latino mestizo like you revolts me, Señor Hinez, if
I may address you by what I imagine is your real name.
ray o'hara...
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actually i could believe hines is related to you.
you are both boastful net-loons who make fantasic and unsubstantiated
claim{lies} while never offering a shred of proof.
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The Celts, following their trek from Upper Scythia via Greece,
northern Italy, France and into the Germanic regions, also settled in
Galicia, before finally moving on to Ireland. That's what our
traditions tell us and it is repeated in the Declaration of Arbroath,
our memorandum to the Pope on April 6th, 1320 AD. "borrowed" by your
now-collapsing republic to compose its own Declaration of Independence
in 17 something.
William Black...
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The reality seems to be rather different.
'Celtic culture' was a very popular form, much like the 'American
lifestyle' is today.
It seems to have been adopted by a number of different European tribal or
ethnic groups because of this.
There doesn't actually seem to have been a single 'Celtic' ethnic or racial
group.
But it's still a good story.
The Highlander...
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We like it. So do the fifty million people of Scots descent living on
the North American continent.
But of course one Englishman could never be wrong, eh?
William Black...
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I'm so glad you've finally worked that out.
It will make life simpler in future.
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The Highlander
Faodaidh nach ionann na beachdan anns
an post seo agus beachdan a' Ghàidheil.
The views expressed in this post are
not necessarily those of The Highlander.
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ray o'hara...
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the celts of yore and the spanish/mediterranean peoples of today are not
the same. todays spaniard are decended from visigoths.
the gothic invasions into europe eliminated a great many of the original
celtic population on the mainland, although pockets in france{brittany} and
spain{galacias} did survive.
Ian MacLure...
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Gah-leeth-eya
Charo for instance.
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once again hiney you are wrong.
Tiglath...
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You don't know what you are talking about.
To suggest that the Visigoth replaced the Celtiberians and only a few
Jackie Mulheron...
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They may have eliminated the languages (whaur's Gothic these days by the
way) but doesn't mean they eradicated populations.
If DNA evidence is showing England's genetic make up is largely based on
pre-Anglo-Saxon genes then it would seem they imported a ruling class and
language onto an existing populace.
The same would apply to the Goths in Spain.
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pockets remained in France and Northwestern Spain and follow such
suggesting by telling other people that are wrong, richly deserves a
thrashing.
Althought the Visigoths were the ruling elite they were numerically
inferior to the rest of the population. I've heard ratios from 7/1 7
to 20/1, for different periods.
"There were no more than 300,000 Germanic people in Spain, which had a
population of 4 million, and their overall influence on Spanish history
is generally seen as minimal."
It seems, however, that none of the historical groups, including the
Visigoths and the Celts, is genetically more preponderant in Spain that
the Iberians (haplogroup R1b), the earliest paleolithic group that
populated the Iberian peninsula c. 30,000 BC. They are the people who
migrated to Britain mentioned in the report, . The Celts arrived in
the Iberian Peninsula in the early first millenium BC, and formed the
group known as the Celtiberians.
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Bryn...
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My "Y" chromosome tells a very different story...
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