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Budgie...
Any suggestions for Dennis Murray's place of birth in the 1901 census?

It looks like Kenna, but I can't find anywhere with that name in Co.Cork.

Ron Bass writ backwards...
Could it be a mistranscription of Kenmare? The Kenmare River estuary
is the next major inlet north of Bantry Bay.


CWatters...
This looks like them in the 1881....

Household Record 1881 British Census
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Household:
Name RelationMarital StatusGenderAge BirthplaceOccupationDisability
Dennis MURREY Head M Male 65 Ireland Genera Labourer
Ellen MURREY Wife M Female 55 Ireland Housekeeper
Michael MURREY Son U Male 28 Usk, Monmouth, England Brickmaker
Joseph MURREY Son U Male 17 Usk, Monmouth, England Grocer Assistant
Dennis MURREY Son U Male 15 Usk, Monmouth, England Groom (Hm)
Agnes MURREY G Daur Female 5 Usk, Monmouth, England Scholar
Source Information:
Dwelling Twyn Square
Census PlaceUsk, Monmouth, Wales
Family History Library Film 1342265
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5257 / 11
Page Number 15

Hugh Watkins...
there were two MURREY MURRAY families from Ireland in Usk

my JONES of Raglan had grocers shops in USK and Raglan and a brickworks
probably on the Usk side of Raglan

so I wonder if they were employed there :-)
(the brickworks seen on old-maps but not verified in estate records)

Budgie...
I have censuses from 1861. Dennis Murray (or Murrey) is described as a
Labourer or General Labourer except in 1871, where he's a Farm Labourer.

However, sons Michael and John both worked in a brickyard.

myths...
My husband's great-grandfather worked in brickworks in Kent, and lived
in the cottage near the brickfield (now gone, but remembered in a raod
name. There are a number of family stories about his work. In
censuses, he usually appears as Ag. Lab., but once as a brickmaker.
My mother-in-law, who grew up in the area and knew his widow, said,
when she heard this, that small scale brick-making was somwhat
seasonal, and he was probably employed by the farmer that owned the
brickfield - when work was at its height, other labour would be
drafted in to help, and when slack (inclement seasons) there would be
other tasks for him around the land.

Jeff...
This makes sense. Marl removed for brickmaking was also used as a soil
conditioner by farmers

"Marl" is often applied to a wide range of soils which are not
technically Marl.


Hugh W


Charles Ellson...
Possibly a muck-up of "Carra" (as in Inniscarra and Lough Carra, near
Cork City) ? The census entry will have been copied from the original
schedule with "rr" possibly being mistaken as "nn", possibly
compounding a variation caused by the census-taker mishearing what the
householder said.
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