Parish Register for Castleford at FHC

Finally got to see the parish register for Castleford. Got into the FHC,
loaded the film up, I knew exactly where I wanted to look at. 1781, Luke
Deane.

Sure enough, Luke Deane, what looked like 26th December 1781, Father
John Deane.

There's no more information than that! I feel cheating. Is that it?
That's ALL of the information? After all those weeks of waiting, Im no
closer.

Eve McLaughlin...

That's Yorkshire for your - there are far too many parish registers
where the men seem to have done it all by themselves. This was one of
the reasons why incentives were offered to do better and include far
more detail - result, the marvellious Dade registers, which can have
three generations on a plate. Maybe your couple went on to be recorded
in such a format? Did you carry on the search?

Simon Dean...

You mean try to find the marriage of Luke Dean or any of his siblings,
or look for the baptism of his children?

I know I've looked up the records on something (which are in Wakefield
and Austerfield), whether that was the BT or PR... but of course, Dade
Parish Registers.

Thank you very much for the suggestion. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Cheers
Simon

Im wondering if Im liable to find some different film of the Parish
Register up at the archives in Wakefield?

roy.stockdill...

You are what we might call a supreme optimist, aren't you? Why on

Simon Dean...

I like being an optimist. Helps me not to give up. Im convinced that if
I carry on digging, sooner or later I might find something.

earth do you think you might find a different film of the parish registers
in Wakefield? If the film you saw at the FHC is of the original register,
then that's all there is. Both sets of films will almost certainly have been
supplied by the LDS Church anyway. Unless, of course, what you saw at
the FHC was a transcript, as opposed to film of the actual registers.

Simon Dean...

I must check the film number I ordered. The information at the front of
the film did say "Composite Registers". Im guessing though that it could
be theoretically possible for someone to record the wrong film?

I don't like giving up too easily. Even though I am a realist and
acknowledge limitations.

Assuming, however, it was the original registers you saw, the only other
source you could look at are the bishop's transcripts (copies of the
registers from 1598 onwards). Those for Castleford are not at Wakefield
but at the Borthwick Institute in York. These are often worth inspecting
since, though they are supposed to be an identical copy of the registers,
they do sometimes contain different information or entries missing from
the registers. However, if no mother is shown in the entry in the PRs,
then it is unlikely you will find her in the BTs, either.

Simon Dean...

That's why I ordered the PR. After the thoughts about a dowd(?) register.

Why should you feel cheated? You will just have to accept that some
vicars were more conscientious and gave more information than others.
It is very common to find only the father's name given in baptismal
entries. However, why not look for siblings and see if a mother's name

roy.stockdill...

call up John Deane's christening you will see in the bottom left-hand
corner of the screen an underlined batch number, C108202. Click on
this and the program automatically places the batch number in the
search box. Enter "Deane" and father "John and search again. This
produces a total of 8 children, christened either as DEANE or DEAN,
between 1781 and 1801, all with father John. All but the last entry show
only the father, but if you open up the last one, a Mary Ann Dean,
baptised in October 1799, you will see that a mother, Catherine, is
shown.

Of course, it's always possible there may have been more than one
John Dean(e) baptising children in Castleford - it's not exactly an
uncommon name. I'm afraid I couldn't find a marriage of a John Dean(e)
to Catherine at the right time.

Roy Stockdill
Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:

"There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about,
and that is not being talked about."
OSCAR WILDE

was given in one of them?

Simon Dean...

I feel cheated, not that I didn't get the information as such, but that
I excited myself to such a level that I might just be able to make the
next step and find my fifth great grandafather, and find more distant
cousins.

Im frustrated and disappointed that this plan didn't come to fruition.
But fair enough, put it behind me, think about someone else for a bit,
and see if I can find a different approach. Im not one for giving in.

Cya
Simon

myths...

Be wary, and look widely enough to be reasonably certain that there
weren't two fathers with the same name, or one father with a number of
wives.

Genealogy is full of highs and lows - triumphs and disappointments.
Better get used to it!

Roy Stockdill
Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:

"There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about,
and that is not being talked about."
OSCAR WILDE

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Any thoughts?

Cheers
Simon