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Birth Certificate
Thu, 09 Feb 2006 23:44:34 GMT
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Theodore Hewitt...
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I received a Birth record today from Bournemouth. It does not give the
father's name. It also makes it unclear as to what the last name of the
child would be. Was it not customary for the bride to take the husbands last
name, or maybe they weren't married? This record is from Feb. 1945. I have
Eve McLaughlin...
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If the child is born to an unmarried mother (which is the implication if
no father's name is included, then of course it will intitially take the
mother's name. This can be changed if she marries or simply shacks up
Charles Ellson...
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The child would have been registered using the mother's surname but in
many cases might never be found to have used the mother's surname
again even if the parents didn't marry.
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with a man who accepts the child, and his surname is likely to be then
used, unless and until the child decides later to revert to its birth
surname.
The entry will be indexed alphabetically under the mother's surname in
1945.
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searched for the child using the mother's last name on the record as well as
the fathers and I don't find it on the beta site,
Robin Haigh...
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If the mother is plain "Mary Smith", she's a spinster, or claiming to be.
If it says "Mary Smith formerly Jones" then either
(1) she's a widow, and the child isn't her late husband's, or
(2) she's married, and the child isn't her husband's. Such records are
normally rare, as such children (who were not all that rare) were normally
registered as the husband's regardless.
A. Gwilliam...
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Or perhaps:
(3) she's divorced, and the child may or may not be her ex-husband's.
But I rather doubt the second scenario that you mention; a child of a
married woman is legally the husband's. I suppose that someone will
now provide an example when such a registration occurred...!
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However, this was the south coast of England 9 months after D-Day, so
conditions weren't exactly normal.
There isn't any way to deduce what surname the child would be brought up
with. Indexing is only based on the information in the register. If the
father's name isn't shown, then it wasn't available to the indexers. The
entry should be indexed under the mother's name in the quarter for the date
of registration (not date of birth), but there's no additional information
to be got from the index.
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be greatly appreciated. I don't want to enter this information until I'm
sure the child is related.
Charani...
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Yes, it was customary for a bride to take her husband's name but if
the child doesn't have a father named, then the parents weren't
married. If there's only one surname on the certificate, that of the
mother, then that is the child's surname.
If the mother married subsequent to the birth of the child, then
there's no guarantee that her husband was the father of the child.
It's obviously up to you as to what information you include in the
tree, but if the mother is related to you either by birth or by
marriage, then her child is as well, albeit possibly as a step.
Since I can't access Ancestry, I don't know the names of the people
involved, so I can't check on 1837online or familyrelatives for you.
Ancestry's indexing is a little wobbly.
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Eve McLaughlin...
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Just knowing the surname surely does not show the child is related. If
the mother is related, and you know it, then the child is too. If you
don't know who she is (and her relationship), you can't claim either,
merely on the basis of a matching surname.
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