1841 census

Hi folks can someone look up please -
Joseph CLARK(E) born 1784 Falmouth
Philinda CLARK(E) born 1786 Falmouth
Couldn't find on Cornwall 1841 Census - maybe in Devon.

Philinda is in Cornwall 1851 as widow 64 years

roy.stockdill...

I never cease to be amazed by some of these look-up requests! Look up
in what, exactly? What resources do you imagine some of us have that
are not just as available to you online?

You have obviously looked yourself and couldn't find them, so what
makes you think someone else will be able to do so? I had a quick
glance at the Ancestry 1841 index but couldn't see them, however in my

C Rihan...

All good advice, but it can be very hard to think of the 'right' version
of a surname to find.
That may just be the one version that doesn't spring to mind.

singhals...

True enough -- I just finished indexing something in which the surname
Gardner was spent Guardineer the first 15 times and then oscillated
among Gardner, Gardiner, and Gardener; the content is very clear they're
a series of fathers, sons, brothers, and uncles, but you'd never in the
world find the Guardineer ones!

And there are times, when it's useful to have other people's opinions
on whether it could be the right person, or just a different person with
a similar name.

Charani...

I'll let you know off group/list how I get on.

For example, I'd decided that Margaret PEARN on the 1881 index
was probably not the Margaret PEAN , I was looking for,.
The surname was slightly wrong, I wasn't expecting he to be in
Devon, I didn't recognise the name of the person with her, and I
wasn't expecting her to be a warrant officer's widow.
(The occupation I had for her husband was shipwright.)
Thanks to suggestions from people on sgb, I took another look
at her, and found that she was mine after all, and I was able to
continue to make progress on that family.
I've even found a letter of hers filed away at Kew, which was
totally unexpected.

Best wishes
C.Rihan

experience they are probably there somewhere but mis-indexed or mis-
transcribed or under some other name. To find them probably involves
some lateral thinking and could perhaps take an hour or two, so why not
persevere yourself? Have you tried, for instance, looking for other
members of the family, i.e. children or siblings, who might be there?

BTW, telling us they were born in Falmouth is no help at all, since in
1841 precise birth places were not given, the only question asked being
whether the subject was then residing in the county in which he/she was

roy.stockdill...

OK, having taken you to task for not trying hard enough, I will now give
you a clue! The wife is there but she was a widow of 55 and her first
name is spelt PHILENDER. She was in Falmouth and there was also a
boy of 8 called William Dunn in the household.

Now try again.....

Roy Stockdill
Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:

"There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about,
and that is not being talked about."
OSCAR WILDE

born, demanding only a Y or N in the appropriate column.

Roy Stockdill
Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:

Anne Chambers...

It didn't occur to you that she might only have the Cornwall census
CD/fiche ? Not everyone has access to Ancestry. In addition - there is

Peter Goodey...

I used to think I didn't have access but someone explained it to me. It
appears that you just dip your hand in your pocket and then you have
access. It worked for me anyway. Might be worth trying.

Anyway, as it happens I think Falmouth, Cornwall is the right place for her
to look.

HO 107/1054/4 f 28 p 13.

no obligation for you to put yourself out at all; if other people are
willing to, that's their business. Why don't you just ignore postings
like this instead of inflicting your rants on us ?

Anne
South Australia

roy.stockdill...

Anyone can look at the Ancestry INDEX for free! If the OP has the
Cornwall census CD/fiche or whatever, then all she had to do was use a
bit of imagination and try out different versions of the female name
Philinder (as it happens, she's there as Philender).

I first used the index at FamilyHistoryOnline and then went back to
Ancestry. Everybody DOES have access to all these online indexes -
but sometimes some people just don't want to pay for them. You can
buy a pay-per-view voucher at FamilyHistoryOnline for 5 pounds and
similar at Ancestry for Ł4.95 that allows 10 image downloads.

Anyway, I found the person for her. It's not rocket science!

andrew...

Roy -

Yes, you did find it for her, but in the meanwhile had made yourself out
to be a bit of a churl.

Why not, as wisely suggested, let it pass by all together without
comment or, more helpfully, impart your undoubted great experience and
knowledge to one who obviously does not know in a more gracious manner?
(I hope you do not 'come the old Yorkshire' over the word 'gracious').

Yours Aye Andrew Sellon

Roy Stockdill
Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:

"There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about,
and that is not being talked about."
OSCAR WILDE

"There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about,
and that is not being talked about."
OSCAR WILDE

thanks Rhonda