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Lettice Knollys
28 Dec 2005 10:13:25 -0800
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kerryscott5...
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Lettice Knollys (1540-1634) was the widow of Robert Dudley, Earl of
Leicester. She was Queen Elizabeth I's rival in love (over Robert
Dudley). She was also the mother of Robert Deveraux and Penelope Rich.
Does anyone know if she has any living descendents?
Don Aitken...
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Yes. Robert's daughter Frances left issue by her marriage to the 2nd
Duke of Somerset. Descendants include the Duke of Buccleuch, the
Marquess of Aylebury, and a vast number of others. Her sister Dorothy
married Sir Henry Shirley of Astwell, and from them descend the Earls
Ferrers and the Lords Ferrers of Chartley, among others. Descendants
of the Rich line include the Lords Kensington and Braybrooke, the
Agar-Robartes of Lanhydrock, and the Earls of Drogheda. And Lettice's
other daughter Dorothy is an ancestor of the Duke of Northumberland.
In fact everybody who is anybody seems to be descended from Lettice!
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Nick...
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I don't know but there is a Knollys Road in London, SW16 and a Knollys House
Nick...
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It makes it a bit difficult if you join at the "top" rather than at the
"bottom".
The point you have missed is regarding pronunciation and the precise
pronunciation of Knollys. I live in Knollys Road which we pronounce to rhyme
Brian Austin...
with Dollies. Eve says that the aristocratic family Knollys rhymes with
Bowls, which I also accept.
I don't think that these two things are inconsistent.
Equally the S Londoners pronounce Pepys in their own way. That is their
pronunciation and it would be bizarre to go along there and tell them that
they have got it wrong.
Let many flowers bloom!
Jeff...
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Not always easy!
Here in BC we have a place called Gloucester Estates" which
many locals pronounce completely phonetically.
Very hard NOT to wince!
Nick...
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I don't know about Canadian pronunciation but I thought that was standard US
pronunciation - for instance, Leicester as Ly-ses-ter.
Jeff...
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I'm afraid you are right!
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singhals...
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Funny, I've heard that one as lee-kester or lay-kester.
Nick...
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Not me! Any American asking for Leicester Square will just ask for
Ly-ses-ter, in my experience.
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As someone once said, the Americans and the English are two nations divided
attributes this to either Wilde or Shaw.
It would seem that the British are a nation divided by a common language, as
evidenced by this thread.
I believe that in Italy they are not even united by the pretence of a common
language ie there is no such thing as "standard" Italian.
Nick...
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My own surname is of German origin, and therefore I have had to put up with
people pronouncing it in at least 3 ways. In fact, when I was 5 apparently I
wouldn't answer to my name (first name and surname - they did that then and
there were two other Nicholases). The teacher told my parents at an open
evening that I didn't respond when she called my name. It transpired that I
wouldn't answer to her pronunciation of it. Indeed I told my parents that
there were 4 Nicholases - the 3 actual ones and the phantom Nicholas with my
surname pronounced differently.
Brian Austin...
Brian Austin...
My German teacher didn't pronounce my surname even in the German manner, but
as pronounced in English. We pronounce it a third way - just to be awkward.
Brian Austin...
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Brian Austin...
Cousins in Australia anglicised (?) it so that there is no question about
the pronunciation - but that would boring!
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says that it is most Italians second language after a regional dialect.
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in Croydon.
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