In search of Grandfather supposively born & raised in Hartlepool, Durham, England...help?

Hi! I'm new to this group & didn't know where to find the current
conversation so I hit the "Start a new conversation" button... I hope
I'm not being rude!

Lesley Robertson...

Starting a new thred for a new subject is correct.

Charani...

Welcome and you've done exactly the right thing in starting a new
thread with your query. Don't use CAPITALS though because that's
deemed to be shouting. If you want emphasis use the asterisk (*)
either side of the word or phrase.

As far as I'm aware, there is only one Hartlepool: that in Durham.

Charles Ellson...

There were two - East Hartlepool (aka Old Hartlepool) and West
Hartlepool, one of the reasons why the name of the football team was
previously Hartlepool_s _ United. They were two separate burghs, now
combined into one (in 1974?); this possibly has consequences WRT
census indexes, etc. While a modern map tends to show one town the
distinction was more apparent when the area was less populated. The
area is also known for an attitude problem with symians (web-search for
"Who hung the monkey").

Be cautious in using familysearch especially the patron submissions.
They can vary from being correct to total fantasy, likewise the
content of ancestral files and pedigree. Use them as aids but check
the parish registers (available through the LDS Family History Centres
(FHCs) or buy the certificates.

What other sites specifically have you been using?

My grandfather's name was Walter Scott [no middle name ever recorded
although it may have been Charles...] & his birth date was 1880 [give
or take 1 year].
He had a brother named John Scott & I believe his father's name was
also John Scott who possibly immigrated from Scotland.

Lesley Robertson...

The 1881 census has a John Scott, son of John, aged 4 in Hartlepool. No
Walter, but he could have been born in 1881. They're worth checking.
Father's english, but from the Border countrry. You could also look at the
1901 census since you seem to be sure some of the family stayed in the area.
However, the most useful thing you could do would be to seek out Walter's
marriage certificate in Canada and see if that gives anything useful.
Don't forget that the family might nothave moved to Hartlepool until after
Walter's birth.

I was told they lived in "West Hartleypool" & when I looked that up it
turned out that Hartlypool was actually "Hartlepool". >>>IS THIS
CORRECT OR IS THERE ANOTHER HARTLEYPOOL IN ANOTHER COUNTY OF ENGLAND?

Robert Stonehouse...

Hartlepool is the spelling, but Hartleypool is closer to the
local pronunciation.

There were two adjacent towns, Hartlepool and West
Hartlepool. They were merged into one on 1st April 1967. Up
to that time the records will be separate.

Old Hartlepool was the headland, founded as a monastery.
Bede, Ecclesiastical History, 4.23 on the life of St Hilda:
"After this she was made abbess in the monastery called
Heruteu (Hartlepool) which had been founded not long before
by Heiu, a devoted handmaid of Christ, who is said to have
been the first woman in the Northumbrian kingdom to take the
vows and habit of a nun, having been ordained by Bishop
Aidan. But soon after she founded the monastery, she retired
to the town of Calcaria which the English call Kaelcacaestir
(Tadcaster?) and there she made her dwelling. Hild, the
handmaiden of Christ, was appointed to rule the monastery
and at once set about establishing there a Rule of life in
all respects like that which she had been taught by many
learned men; for Bishop Aidan and other devout men who knew
her visited her frequently, instructed her assiduously, and
loved her heartily for her innate wisdom and her devotion to
the service of God." (Colgrave's translation.) More recently
it was a fishing town.

West Hartlepool was founded in 1847 as a new dock, mainly
for the import of timber and export of coal. In 1860 the
value of exports was three times as much as all other
North-East ports together, including Newcastle. Naturally,
the others decided they had to compete, and things did not
stay at that level.

There was strong feeling between the people of old
Hartlepool and West Hartlepool: the story of hanging the
monkey probably arose from that.

Walter married Henrietta McGaw in Canada [date unknown] & they lived
mainly in Calgary & High River, Alberta where they raised 7 children:
Allen Scott; Ralph Scott [R.A.F.W.W.II]; Grace Scott; Mary Agnes Scott;
Alex Scott [R.A.F.W.W.II & Henrietta Scott [who were twins] & Dorothy
Scott.
Ralph Scott visited his Uncle John Scott & relatives in Hartlepool on a
leave during W.W.II [probably near the end of the war....] SO I KNOW
THERE MUST BE COUSINS OUT THERE SOMEWHERE!
I've been researching using "FamilySearch.org" & other various sites as
well as searching cenuses. I have found a few close ones & possibly the
right one, but I'd like to be sure I have the right one!
ANY SUGGESTIONS OUT THERE?

Lesley Robertson...

Using all caps like this is regarded as shouting - please don't.
You'll find a lot of good info on how to do UK genealogy on GENUKI here
Lesley Robertson