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1881 Census oddity
11 Nov 2006 11:07:39 -0800
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bigbrian...
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Searching the 1881 on Ancestry for Maria Wedlock, b. 1865 (there's only
one indicated), lists her as being the daughter of a family called
McGrath, but in fact the entry spans two pages with the McGraths on one
page, and Maria Wedlock at the top of the next page, although I believe
there are pages missing in between.
Jenny M Benson...
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It doesn't look to me as though there are pages missing.
If you look at the "Individual's page" for any of the family, you will
see the reference is RG11/82/116/50. Looking at the image on page 51
you will see it is folio 117 which is correct.
bigbrian...
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And yet image 50 (the McGraths) is recorded in St Luke's parish, and
image 51 (Maria Wedlock, ostensibly living at the same address) is
recorded in "St Clem...", presumably St Clements. Looks odd on the face
of it, even without the missing schedules
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The most likely explanation is that Mrs Grath was previously married to
Mr Wedlock and had the children with him.
bigbrian...
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Can't find any record of a marriage between a ?? Wedlock and a Jane ??
anytime in the releveant period that might fit, and no census records
that might bear that out either
Brian
Anne Chambers...
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The McGraths (page 50) are quite clearly crossed out on the image - they
are at 8 & 9 Little Blenheim Street, and are noted as enumerated in
district 10 - this is a duplicate enumeration. Page 50 is for the civil
parish of Chelsea, 2Church Ward.
On the next page (on the original scan the actual page number is
missing), the Wedlocks (Maria and her brother) are at 8 Walmer Road - I
think this and the next are the pages that don't belong - it's a
completely different area, civil parish of Ken(T)ington - should be
Kensington - Municipal Ward of St John and St James. They have been
incorrrectly indexed as children of Michael and Jane McGrath
Interesting - in 1871, there are a Frederick & Rhoda Ann Wedlock living
in that area (Gladstone Road, with Walmer Road on the same page) with a
large family - no Maria, but a Charlotte of exactly the right age, and a
Walter, which is the name of the brother in 1881.
There is a Chorlotte (sic) WEDLOCK born
Births Jun 1865
Wedlock Chorlotte Pancras 1b 114
and a Walter Edwin born Kensington
Births Jun 1870
Wedlock Walter Edwin Kensington 1a 83
I wonder if she decided she preferred Maria ? I'm almost certain it's
the same family, as Maria in 1881 is a laundress and Frederick & Rhoda
Ann in 1871 are laundry man and laundress, and all the elder girls are
laundresses.
bigbrian...
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Thanks for all that - seems to fit nicely. I think the name indexed as
"Mariel C" is actually Maria, though. The "l" at the end is actually
the tail of Emily's "y" from the line above, and she's only a year out
from the Maria shown in 1881
bigbrian...
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And there's a Charlotte shown in the 1881 as a domestic servant, still
in Kensington.
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I think you are right, and pages are missing - I cannot find either
Frederick or Rhoda Ann Wedlock in 1881 - and there should still be a
Muriel & and Emily living at home, even if the elder ones have married;
can't find them either A search for Walmer Road only brings up high
numbers.
bigbrian...
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Can I ask how you search by address?
Anne Chambers...
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With the Ancestry indexes, you can only search by street address in 1881
- there's a special box for it on the specific 1881 search page.
However, I have found that if you enter the civil parish and put just
the street name (no 'street' or 'road' etc.) into Keyword (with all the
censuses except 1841), you sometimes get the right area and can then
browse. It doesn't always work, depends on whether the street name has
been correctly transcribed
You're right about Maria/Mariel - and a Maria Charity Wedlock married in
1885.
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The first page it returns (with the McGrath family) is page 50,
Ancestry image 50, and goes down to schedule no 217 and 218, which are
the McGraths. If I flip forward one image number to 51, which should be
the continuation, the page number isn't shown, but it starts at
schedule no 255, which has Maria and Walter Wedlock at the top, as
daughter and son of whoever was on the bottom of the previous page.
Steven Gibbs...
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That page looks to have been filed in the wrong place - the Civil Parish
is completely different for a start. Searching for low-numbered even
numbers in Walmer Road on the LDS CDs suggests that the smallest ones
are missing.
Try searching Ancestry for Edwin Curran, aged 33, then look at the
previous page. It won't solve your problem, but it may help explain it
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Any ideas how to find out who they are? I've tried searching for other
Wedlocks to see whether they appear on the missing pages, but no joy.
Does anyone have access to another service with the 1881 census, which
may show the mssing pages? Or am I misunderstanding and the pages
aren't missing at all?
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