Many many thanks . . .

To all four who provided so much help: many thanks.

The John O. Warne who married Eliza IS my man!

Father Henry WAS a brush maker!

The Canadian census said that John was a "reformed Baptist".

I have no doubt that all four respondents have found my JOHN OCTAVIOUS

roy...

Glad to have been of assistance.

Perhaps you - or others - may be interested in knowing how I found
him on the 1901 census, in case you need to use the technique in
future. I used The National Archives version at
Warne" and the parameters age 50 + or - 5 years (based on the fact
you said he was born about 1850) I found 19 of them in the age
bracket 45-55. Naturally, I spotted the John Warne, aged 47, born
"...Channel Island" but there was another one aged 53, born in St
Helier, Jersey, but living in Guernsey, which could at a pinch have
been him. I then used advance options and entered "O" in the Other
name(s) field. This produced only the John Warne aged 47 at Lambeth.

Next I called up all the Warnes at Lambeth. There were 68 of them,
rather a lot, but it is usually possible to see which candidates are
living in the same household, or at least appear on the same page, by
allowing your cursor to hover over the "Image - charge" icon in the
far-left column and then noting the long string of letters and
figures that appear at the bottom of the screen, beginning "Shortcut
to ChargeableServelet". It's only necessary to mentally note the
last 4 or 5 letters/digits. Then you simply move the cursor down over
every entry until you find matches. This revealed that John and Eliza
shared the same identical string of letters and digits, indicating
they were probably in the same houehold. This is one technique for
finding families without buying the image. It's not 100 per cent
foolproof but at least tells you which entries appear on the same
page of the enumerator's book.

Roy Stockdill

"There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about,
and that is not being talked about."

Oscar Wilde

WARNE!!!!!!