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Robert Cokayne or Kayne?
4 Aug 2006 12:07:53 -0700
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mjcar...
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John Brandon schrieb:
Isn't the footnote saying that the original register entry for the
licence is damaged, and the only legible part is "Robert ---kayne",
from which "Cokayne" has been surmised/reconstructed?
John Brandon...
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Uh huh. But, from New England sources, we know the name was "Kayne" or
"Keane," so I'm puzzled why the editor thought there must be a prefix.
Renia...
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Keane is Irish. Kayne is summat else. (Seriously.)
John Brandon...
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Oh yeah, like you know ...
mjcar...
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The joys of collegiality.
John Brandon...
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Well, I must say it is rather dumb of her to imply rigid rules of
spelling for the time period 1610-20.
mjcar...
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Must you? Couldn't you just have disagreed civilly, and explained why?
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Renia...
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The 1841 England census shows only 35 people called Kayne.
Of these, 9 were males born before 1821 (approximate dates):
1. Edward, b 1816 Ireland, living Huddersfield, Printer
2. Edwin, b 1816, born & living, Gloucestershire, Superintendent of
Police (name really Hayne)
3. James, b 1775, born & living Lancashire, Collier
4. John, b 1816, living Cheshire, Labourer (wife Sarah)
5. John, b 1816 Ireland, living Cheshire, Labourer (wife Julia)
6. John, b 1831, born & living Staffordshire, Bricklayer
7. Richard, b 1801 , living St Pancras London, Attorney
8. Thomas, b 1816, born & living Northamptonshire, Farmer
9. William, b 1811, born & living Worcestershire, Carpenter
The 1841 England census shows:
146 people called Caine, of whom 20 were born in Ireland
1,128 people called Cane, of whom 113 were born in Ireland
2661 people called Keen, of whom 24 were born in Ireland
218 people called Keane, of whom 80 were born in Ireland
514 people called Kean, of whom 124 were born in Ireland
15 people called Cokayne, only 2 born before 1821, both in Notts (John,
b 1796, schoolmaster, and Thomas, b 1818, tutor)
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mjcar...
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Perhaps there's an evident gap between "Robert" and "kayne" in the
original?
John Brandon...
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Must be a gap plus a stain ...
mjcar...
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Maybe some insect munched its way through the gap, and the Editor
couldn't resist filling in what had simply been a blank. Nicely
spotted, in any case.
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