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Re: A Domesday Descent: Hay of Aughton, and of Spaldington



Mon, 18 Sep 2006 17:39:18 +0000 (UTC) soc.genealogy.medieval
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Therav3...
Sunday, 17 September, 2006

Dear Tim, Doug, et al.,

Thanks to both Tim and Doug, for the sources and citations
(and observations) of the past two days. Many thanks also to
Rosie Bevan, who kindly provided the necessary details from
Farrer's EYC (and from Early Yorkshire Families) to help resolve
at least some of the uncertainties involved with the Hays (de
la Hayes) of Aughton, and of Spaldington.

I provide below the revised chart showing the relationships
of the individuals as set out in Early Yorkshire Charters
II:422-423, no. 1130 (including the ancestry of William fitz
Peter as described by Farrer in his explanatory note). I will
provide further details once all the extractions from EYC and
EYF are complete, but thought it would be useful to 'lay this
out' meanwhile.

Nigel
I
I
Alured Roger fitz Nigel Anketine
I tenant in North Cave I
I of Fossard, ca. 1135-1156 I
I I I
I I I
Roger fitz Alured Roger fitz Roger William fitz
tenant of Henry de Laci, tenant of William Anketine
1166 Fossard, 1166 I
I _____________I _____________I
I I I
Emma = Thomas 'I' de Peter = Christina
I la Haye I
I d. bef 1191 I
I _____________I_________
I I I
Thomas 'II' de la Haye Agnes = Adam de William
of Aughton, co. Yorks. I Linton fitz Peter
fl. 1197-1200 I fl. 1197-1200
d. bef 1228 I
I I
_________ I _______________________I_____________________
I I I I
I ___I___________________ I _______________ I
I I I I I I
William = Emma Roger = Christina Peter = Oliva
de de la de la I de Linton de la I de
Burland Haye Haye I Haye I Linton
(Linton) d. aft I I
dsp (?) 1243 I I
__________I______ I
I I I
William John Sir Peter
de la Haye de la Haye de la Haye
of Aughton of Aughton of Spaldington
dsp bef 1251 fl. 1251 fl. 1254
I I
V V
a quo a quo
HAY of Aughton de la HAYE
of Spaldington

Of the interesting items that merit further discussion, and
documentation:

1. There may be details in Domesday Descendants re: William
fitz Anketine, grandfather of William fitz Peter, as well
as Anketine (Aschitel/Anketil ?) himself - who might also
appear in Domesday People, for all we currently know.

2. The text of the charter, and notes, from EYC II:422-3
are concerned with Aughton, and Goodmanham, and the
arrangments concerning same (Roger de la Haye m.
Christina de Burland/Linton, and Emma de la Haye m.
William de Burland/Linton). There is no mention of
Spaldington, or other family members of this generation,
but the text makes it apparent there were other sons of
Thomas 'II' de la Haye: ' Rogero filio meo primogenito '
[" Roger, my firstborn son "] is identified as the
beneficiary of the agreement, so we know there were
younger sons.

From whence Britton found the details re: Peter de la
Haye (of Spaldington) as a younger son, and husband of
Oliva de Burland/Linton is not as yet apparent, but this
is from one or more sources outside EYC as it now appears.
The earliest mention I have found to date of this branch
is of Sir Peter de la Haye, who was evidently a son of
the Peter de la Haye and Oliva above:

' Sir (D'ns) Peter de la Haye holds half a fee in
Spaldington of the Barony of Mubraye, and pays yearly
6s. 8d. That land is worth five marcs. ' - IPM of Robert
de Greystoke, son of William, extent dated 15 May 1254
[Yorks. Inq. I:37]

More to follow; meanwhile, my thanks to you all for what has
been resolved to date.
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