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Re: Thomas Hastings



Wed, 11 Jan 2006 00:05:31 +0000 (UTC) soc.genealogy.medieval
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pajunkin...
A Thomas Hastings was a descendant of Uhtred of Allerston through Torphin to
Alan whose daughter, Helen, married 1) Hugh de Hastings by whom Thomas and
2) Robert de Vipont.
1207 King John Feb. 1207/1208 gave the marriage of the widow, Helen of
Allerston Hastings, to Robert Vipont. Helenšs father was Alan of Allerston
of Crosby-Ravensworth. Under age in 1189, she married 1)Hugh Hastings, son
of Thomas, who d. bef. 1204. By Hugh she had Thomas Hastings of Gissing,
Allerston & Crosby Ravensworth.
Of course, I cannot say that this is the same Uhtred called "bold".
Pat

Tim Powys-Lybbe...
I think I've found the account in Round's "Feudal Britain". It is on
page 490 and after quite a mild tirade on Dolfin father of Maldred,
Round slips in, as an aside on common names:

"The Whitby cartularly, for instance, proves that Thomas de Hastings
was (maternal) grandson of Alan, son of Thorphin de Alverstain", son
of Uchtred (son of Cospatric) which Uchtred gave the Church of Crosby
Ravensworth to the abbey in the time, it would seem, of William Rufus.
But who Cospatric, his father, was, has not been clearly ascertained.
The skilled genealogists of the north may be able to decide these
points, and to tell us the true-descent of "Dolphin, the son of
Uchtred"."

Round's point was that there were many people called Uchtred and
Cospatric and they weren't all the one person.
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