Re: Daughters of Henry III, Count of Louvain and Brabant, died 1095

In a message dated 10/10/2006 12:13:59 AM Pacific Standard Time,

However, she was remarried to a powerful magnate nearby, Thierry the Valiant
of Upper Lorraine, and I find it odd that no murmur appears to have been
raised later when his son Simon was old enough to rule in Louvain as husband
to one of its putative heiresses, if indeed Adelaide belonged to this
family.

But if I understand you correctly, nobody raised a murmur.
So then that would imply possibly that the four young daughters all died
before becoming adults. Otherwise one or another of their husbands should have
raised a murmur.

Peter Stewart...

This is not a correct understanding of my point - I am talking about the
particular circumstances of this family. Henri's widow Gertrude was
remarried to Duke Thierry of Upper Lorraine, and if we are to suppose that
he later chose to marry her daughter to his son & heir we must assume that
this was because the bride was considered a worthwhile match. A disinherited
niece of a neighbouring magnate would probably have been more a liability
than an asset, and a waste of Simon's propects from a better arrangement,
unless there was an intention to seek restitution of her rights, or at least
substantial reparations. However, this evidently did not happen.

The likeliest fate of Henri's daughters would have been the cloister,
although one of them is reported later to have married and left descendants.
A less prominent husband than Simon, from a less ambitious family, would
seem more plausible to me.

Peter Stewart