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RPA additions - Kelke and Asfordby
Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:42:45 -0700
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John Higgins...
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Here are a couple of likely additional Plantagenet descents not listed =
in in the 2004 edition of "Plantagenet Ancestry":
A. Kelke (p. 414):
Christopher Kelke mar. Jane St. Paul, dau. of John St. Paul of Carleton =
and Mary, dau. of Richard Lee of New Sleaford. No ancestry is given =
beyond the parents for Jane St. Paul, but it appears that at least her =
paternal grandmother Ellen Thimbleby and possibly her paternal =
grandfather John St. Paul of Snarford are Plantagenet descendants. =
Ellen Thimbleby was dau. of Richard Thimbleby and Elizabeth Hilton, dau. =
of Sir Godfrey Hilton and Margaret Willoughby (for whom see RPA 756). =
John St. Paul of Snarford was son of another John St. Paul of Snarford =
by his wife Joan, dau. of Sir Brian Stapleton of Wighill by Joan =
Threlkell (for whom see RPA 683). The paternity of Joan Stapleton is =
from Paget's ancestry of Prince Charles, but she does not appear in the =
standard pedigrees of Stapleton of Wighill, so this one may be =
questionable. But the Thimbleby connection looks good.
B. Asfordby (p. 44):
Mary Skipwith is shown as wife of John Newcomen of Saltfleetby, for whom =
no ancestry beyond parents is given.But from Maddison's Lincolnshire =
Pedigrees and from Paget, the Newcomen ancestry can be extended and =
linked to a Plantagenet line as follows:
John Newcomen (above)
John Newcomen of Saltfleetby; m. Alice Gascoigne of Lasingcroft
Martin Newcomen of Saltfleetby; m. Mary Sandford
Bryan Sandford of Thorpe Salvin; m. Elizabeth Greene of Greene's Norton
This last couple are listed in RPA 356 under Elizabeth's parents Sir =
Thomas Greene of Greene's Norton and his 2nd wife Marina Bellers.
Comments are welcome....
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