Monthermer and Montagu

Hello list,
We are working on the line of WILLIAM D’ALBINI, Magna Charta Surety to
THOMAS SMITH, SR, Landgrave and Governor of Carolina (1693-94). Have a
brick wall that I hope someone can help break down.
What we have:

D’Albini is Anglo-Latin for the French d’Aubeney.

We are fine down to

Margaret de MONTHERMER and Lord John MONTAGU, K.G., 3rd Earl of Salisbury
(married about 1383; Lord Montagu died by
beheading January 1399/1400) .

Robert MONTAGU m. Mary of Devon

John Montagu of Sutton- Montagu m. Agnes More

Willliam Montagu of Sutton Montagu m.
Mary Sullivan

Are Robert, John and William correct?? I don’t find Robert as a child of
Margaret de Monthermer and John Montagu except in old family “works” – with
no reference as to source. We do find an acceptable reference of Agnes
More being the wife of John.

After William we are fine to Landgrave Thomas Smith.

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I believe that John, 3rd Earl of Salisbury was son of Sir John and
Margaret Monthermer. I have never seen a son named Robert of either of
these John de Montagu's. However, I do not pretend to be an expert on
the Montagu's. Try these sources for starters:

Faris, (1999), pps 242-243.
CP IX: 82, 143-144.
Sir John McLean, Historical and Genealogical Memoir of the Family of
Poyntz, (1886), reprinted 1983, p 250.

Doug Smith

Can anyone help me with the three that are questionable??

Kinta Delamain
NC Outer Banks