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Re: Merlay-Somerville-Griffith descent from King William the Lion of Scotland
Sun, 20 Nov 2005 21:19:58 +0000 (UTC)
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WJhonson...
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In a message dated 11/19/05 11:33:12 AM Pacific Standard Time,
<< I guess the SAL only includes a couple of photographs, not a good
reproduction of the whole. Do you (or does JeffChip9) have better
images of the original object? What is its fate since 1948? >>
Jeff does, but I don't. On my copy its rather hard to read whats in the
roundels. It would be nice to have a transcription of that.
Will
Tim Powys-Lybbe...
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Here goes:
Chris Phillips...
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I've added a few attempts to fill in the gaps
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Above the tomb is a aquare with these words in it:
This Stately tombe of Mibba ... This is a picture of Sir Walter
Griffith knight & Joan Neuill his wife no 3 (?) there [their] young
sonne and daughter who (?) died ... tender years is yet ... ...
Burton.
Chris Phillips...
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Could it be a tombe "of Alabastre" or something like that? Then possibly
"wth th ... picture"?
Chris Phillips...
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Thanks to Tim for providing me with a clearer version of the image off-list.
I reckon it says "of Al?blaster w[i]th theis [these] pictures" - the ? is
probably an "e".
Chris Phillips
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After "his wife" I reckon "wth there yonge sonne & doughter wch died in
there tender yeres is yet in this forme to be seene in [?]the church of
A[nn]eys Burton"
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Now for the pedigree, starting with Sir Joh Griffith and his wife
Katherin, all in squares rther than the circles of the original:
(As ever, ensure you have set your font to fixed, eg Courier.)
_______________________ ______________________
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| Sr John Griffith of | | Katherin daughter of |
| ??? and Anneys Barton | | Sir Robert Tyrwyrthe |
| Knight died in the 20 | | of Kenellry in the |
| of June 11 Ed 4 in |======| Countye of Linclone |
| the yeare of Christ | | | Knight. She died in |
| 1471 | | | ye yeare of Christ |
| | | | 1457 (?) |
|_______________________| | |______________________|
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Chris Phillips...
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I think Sir John is of "Wichnor" [Wychnor, Staffs] and Tyrwyrthe is of
"Kettelby".
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(Arms of Griffith impaling those of Tyrwyrthe)
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__|_____________ _______________ _|_______________ _______________
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| Margaret dau- | | Jane daughter | | Sr Walter Grif- | | Agnes daugh- |
| ghter of Sr | | of Raphe Neu- | | fith of Anneys | | ter of Sr Rob-|
| John Griffith | | ille Knight |=| Burton in York- |=| ert Constable |=
| married to Rob-| | and of his | | shire died in | | of Flamborowe |
| ert Willoughbye| | wife Marye | | the Twentye one | | Knight after |
| of Wollantone | | daughter of | | yeare of King | | married to Sr |
| in Nottingham- | | Joane Countess| | Edward ye 4 in | | Gervase Clif- |
| shire Knight | | of Westmorland| | ye yeare of | | tone Knight |
| 29.H.6 in ye | | Daughter of | | Christ 1481 on | | being his sec-|
| yeare of Christ| | John of Gaunt | | ye 9 of August | | ond wife. Shee|
| 1450 | | Duke of Lan- | | | | was widdowe |
| | | caster & of | | | | ye 22 Ed 4 |
| | | her husband | | | | |
| | | Sr Robert | | | | |
| | | Ferrers | | | | |
|________________| |_______________| |_________________| |_______________|
This Agnes died
ye 23 of January
in ye yeare of
Christ 1505
and ...
Chris Phillips...
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Just a couple of fussy points for Margaret's text - I think her husband is
"Willughbye of Wollatone".
Chris Phillips
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There are lines to show that Sir Walter Griffith and each of his wives
had children. The roundel for Sir Gervase Clifton on the right is
incomplete so I have not attempted to transcribe it.
I do not have a decent image for the lower of the two photographs so
there is no transcription of that.
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