Re: Ancestry of Sarah, wife of William Comyn

This Hugh is not the er of Becket and has no discernable relationship
to the er of Becket. The er of Becket was married to Hawise de
Stuteville and was a generation younger than the Hugh who married Beatrice. Since
Becket was killed c. 1171 and this Hugh de Morville died c. 1162, I think we
can safely rule him out.

Hal Bradley

I think I pointed out exactly the problems with the three Hughs, and here we
see it again. There seems to be confusion on which Hugh is which. Hal and
Pat have diametrically opposed views on this, which is why we need to review
the primary documentation again.

Will Johnson

jcbs...

I know of the following people named Hugh de Morville:

1. The Constable of Scotland who died in 1162 (Chronicle of Melrose). He
was given Appleby by King David after the invasion and later surrendered
it to Henry II.

2. His son who was one of those who killed Becket. The names of his father
and of his mother Beatrice de Beauchamp are chronicled (William of
Canterbury, Materials for the History of Thomas Becket, RS 67 I 128).

Henry II gave him Appleby and Knaresborough in 1158 (Pipe Rolls), and it
was to the latter castle that the murderers fled in 1170 (Hoveden).

After Appleby had surrendered without a fight to William the lion in 1173
he was deprived in 1174 having lost Knaresborough a year earlier (Pipe
Rolls).

His date of death is unknown.

3. The lord of Burgh by Sands who succeeded his father Simon in 1167 and
died in 1202 (Pipe Rolls).

4. A bishop of Coutances early in the 13th century.

J.C.B.Sharp
London