Agincourt

I have heard that there was a database created listing English participants
at the Battle of Agincourt. Does anyone know if such a thing is online and
where? I've had no luck with the regular search engines.

Chris Phillips...

The "Family Chronicle" website has an alphabetical list of about 1200
participants; presumably from Sir N. H. Nicolas, "The History of the Battle
of Agincourt; and of the expedition of Henry the Fifth into France: to which
is added, the Roll of the Men at Arms in the English Army" (2nd edn, 1832;
facsimile reprint, 1970)

Nathaniel Taylor...

Yes; this is simply the reprint of the every-name index in Nicolas'
volume. The problem with this list is that it is large enough to be
subject to the 'name's the same' problem. Nicolas' principal source is
a list compiled by Robert Glover (d. 1588), Somerset Herald under
Elizabeth, now at the Bodleian library. It names about 900 knights and
men-at-arms ('lances'), arranged in the retinues under which they
served. I wrote a little blurb about the whole Agincourt descent
question (and sources) on line at:

In addition, I extracted from Nicolas' list the names of all *knights*
or peers in his principal MS source. This list is arranged by retinue,
rather than alphabetically; it is here:

I also listed two of my apparent descents from Agincourt:

Derek Howard...

Not on line but for the most comprehensive collection of names yet take
a look at the recenly published volume by Anne Curry (Prof of Medieval
History at Southampton): "Agincourt, A New History", Tempus Printing
Ltd, Stroud UK, 2005, ISBN 0 7524 2828 4.

Derek Howard...

Appendix D (pp 280-1) lists men known from Exchequer records to have
taken out indentures to serve on the 1415 campaign - all have some
description: esquire/ knight/ lord/ earl/ gunner/ archer/ almoner/
minstrel, etc.; and Appendix E (pp 282-300) names men-at-arms and
archers known to have served in the English army taken from muster
rolls and retinue lists in the National Archives and "excludes the
'Agincourt roll' in Nicolas, 333-70".

There are over 320 indentured men from dukes to archers and clerics,
with the further names of 1,422 men-at-arms and 5,116 archers. In
addition we know names of a number of household officials, eg. heralds,
who were present. It would appear that Nicolas, 373-9, includes a few
names (25) based on BL Sloane 4600, for which official records do not
survive.

Nathaniel Taylor...

Fascinating! Thank you; I have not yet seen Curry's book. Presumably
she has a discussion of each of the three manuscript sources Nicolas
drew on for his synoptic list. It should certainly be feasible to find
many more Agincourt descents to the present day with a new resource like
this.

Derek Howard...

While Curry does discuss here the sources of her appended lists of
names, she refers to her earlier work _The Battle of Agincourt: Sources
and Interpretations_, Woodbridge, 2000, for fuller discussion and for
discussion of Nicolas. I do not have a copy of that to hand. Her
treatment of the "Agincourt Roll" (Nicolas, 337-8) is in _Sources ..._
407-8.

Curry gives document class references for the musters in E 101/45-7;
indentures in E 101/9; Warrants for issue in E 404/31; issue rolls in E
403/619-21. Amongst the musters she cites E 101/47/38 as a retinue list
returning to England with the Earl Marshal. There may be other similar
lists but I have not gone with a fine toothcomb through her footnotes.

I noticed the inclusion in the appended lists of one John Kempley as an
archer. The surname is rare and it is not completely out of the
question that I am in some way related on one of my ancestral lines.
Proving a link at that level will be the problem.

Derek Howard

mjcar...

Descendants of Thomas Docwra, MP, of Putteridge Bury, Herts (1519-1602)
have at least three fairly definite descents, and another possible:

1. Roger Docwra
2. Sir Richard Hudleston, of Millom (d 1428) (great grandfather of
Alice Greene, who married Richard Docwra)
3. Sir Thomas Rempston, MP (d 1458) (great grandfather of Katherine
Hasilden, who married James Docwra)

4. William Greene (possibly son-in-law of Richard Hudleston)

Nat Taylor

a genealogist's sketchbook:

my children's 17th-century American immigrant ancestors:
http://home.earthlink.net/~nathanieltaylor/leaves/immigrantsa.htm

Derek Howard

Nat Taylor

a genealogist's sketchbook:

my children's 17th-century American immigrant ancestors:
http://home.earthlink.net/~nathanieltaylor/leaves/immigrantsa.htm

Chris Phillips

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David Armstrong
Elkins, WV