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Looking for Russian gateway (Ignatieff)



Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:16:17 -0400 soc.genealogy.medieval
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Denis Beauregard...
One candidate for the leadership of the Liberal party of Canada (the
previous government party) is Michael Ignatieff.

According to an article in the Globe and Mail, he is the grand-son
of a Russian count. Is there any Internet ressource that would link
that count to medieval ancestry ?

mjcar...
Here is one descent from mediaeval ancestors:

1. Gediminas, Grand Duke of Lithuania d 1341
2. Gleb, Prince of Pinsk etc
3. Alexander, Prince of Podolia
4. Patrikey, Prince of Zwenihorod

Denis Beauregard...
[...]

5. Yuri, married Anna of Moscow [of Rurikid descent]
6. Basil, d 1450
7. Ivan, d 1498
8. Prince Michael Bulgakov Galitsa, d 1554
9. Prince Yuri Galitsine
10. Prince Ivan, d 1582
11. Prince Andrew
12. Prince Andrew
13. Prince Alexis
14. Prince Boris
15. Prince Alexis
16. Prince Serge
17. Prince Nicholas
18. Prince Michael Galitsine, d 1827
19. Prince Leonid
20. Princess Catherine Galitsina, married Count Nicholas Ignatieff
21. Count Paul Ignatieff, d 1945
22. Count George Ignatieff
23. Michael Ignatieff - propositus

Further online details (usual caveats etc) may be found here:

Denis Beauregard...
BTW, the only book about Russian ancestry I found at the SGCF library
in Montréal is a summary of the Romanov family but I know there is
one book about the Troubianev (sp?) and another about the kings of
Albania etc. both in another library. But it seems that I would
have quite limited data here about this family.


From what I have found thus far, the grand-parents are:

count Paul IGNATIEFF (1870-1945), last minister of education under the
Czars and countess Natalie MESTCHERSKY.

mjcar...
That is probably METSCHERSKY (or in the case of a female,
Metscherskaya).

mjcar...
I take that back - it appears that the form "Mestchersky" was used. I
think she was a princess rather than a countess.

The Ignatieffs were descended from one of the daughters of Field
Marshal Prince Kutuzov - I have some notes on the ancestry of the
Prince's wife which I will try to dig out.


Natasha is the 'pet' form of Natalie - i.e. the same name.


Paul is the son of Nikolay Pavlovich IGNATYEV (1832-1908), Russian
Minister of the Interior under Tsar Alexander III of Russia.

He is the son of Captain Pavel Ignatiev. I presume he is the first
nobleman of that family and any medieval gateway would be through
Natasha or Natalia (whatever is the right name).

In wikipedia, there are many articles about this family, all linked.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Ignatieff
(the father of Michael and son of Paul, immigrant to Canada)
This article tags his mother as Princess Natasha Mestchersky while
the index of Quebec deaths calls her Natalie.
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